Edius and BlackMagic capture card

[GrassValley_KH]

Cineform as a codec works with Edius, but performance is lower than Canopus HQ.

To clarify, you need EDIUS v4.5 or later installed. (as well as the other associated third-party software for AspectHD, as mentioned)

[swsw1550]

Cineform Aspect

Hi guys,
Does anyone know if you can get cineform aspect to work in edius? or do you just install it as a stand alone and use HD Capture to capture to a folder then import it to edius, with out Premiere installed can you still install aspect HD from Cineform or does it look for premiere when installing.

Steve

[Jerry]

I have a Canon HDV camcorder. The video is recorded at 1920 x 1080p directly to the camera. This video can be seen by the special HDMI Terminal. I capture the video by using the Firewire port which outputs the video at 1080i/60. I use the HDV capture in Edius and choose the right format to match the output of the camcorder. I use the CanopusHD choice. It produces a AVI files. Excellent quality.

If you are using the HV-20, it has a 1920x1080 CMOS chip, but it records in
1440x1080. You can capture through the HDMI connector through the Intensity to uncompressed or MJPEG 1920x1080.
The other Canons the A-1, the G-1, and the H-1 all record at 1440x1080 1.3 aspect but lack the HDMI output. The H-1 and the G-1, both have HD-SDI.

[GrassValley_KH]

Please, excuse my ignorance, but what recording format is 1440x1080p? Or are you capturing live camera output?

Canon's 30F, 25F and 24F formats are 1440x1080 HDV?


Regarding Pegasus - yes, it captures HDMI as Canopus HQ, but I would not regard it as an editing solution. Yes, it can be used in conjunction with EDIUS, but the workflow is pretty much like other third-party HDMI ingest solutions at present - capture separate and then import into EDIUS.

At present, EDIUS HD workstations are the only solution for the OP. While the RX-E1+MIP solution is only available within a turnkey from GV or a GV VAR in the USA, I think the story is a little different in the European market, and that you may be able to buy the hardware+software bundle outside of a PC. I suggest checking with the local office/distributor.

[ixlor8]

I have a Canon HDV camcorder. The video is recorded at 1920 x 1080p directly to the camera. This video can be seen by the special HDMI Terminal. I capture the video by using the Firewire port which outputs the video at 1080i/60. I use the HDV capture in Edius and choose the right format to match the output of the camcorder. I use the CanopusHD choice. It produces a AVI files. Excellent quality.

[Roy Colquitt]

I have no problems with capturing 1440x1080P from Camera to Canopus HQ. The key is have a super fast computer. I am using a quad core.

Print to DVD is fantastic.

Rick

Please, excuse my ignorance, but what recording format is 1440x1080p? Or are you capturing live camera output?

[ixlor8]

Canopus HQ

Perhaps I have missed something here, I use Edius without any capture card.
Capture HDV straight from the camera to Canopus HQ on the fly from the firewire port and the quality is as good as from the camera.
Perhaps I need help in understading the above post
EDius Neo has the same capability
Bewildered Regards Barry

I have no problems with capturing 1440x1080P from Camera to Canopus HQ. The key is have a super fast computer. I am using a quad core.

Print to DVD is fantastic.

Rick

[Bluetongue]

Thanks Dave I knew I had to be missing something, I did not know of the HD, learnt something again from this forum, long may it last
Regards Barry

[STORMDAVE]

Don't think Andrew is using HDV, probably HDCAM (Or the new Sony EX1 since it does full HD)...The only solution GV has is the Edius HD, but as Andrew mentioned it's very expensive.

[Bluetongue]

I've just checked Pegasus card.
Sounds good, but there is no timecode and no 1080p support. HD SDI to HDMI is not a problem, but I miss timecode and it looks that there is no way to have it (if I would like to recapture file I won't be able to it- start point will be different).

If you are looking to do a batch capture from HDV tape forget it the cameras will not cue. The first clip will be OK but from then on it will be worse than capturing from VHS without time code.
The best solution is to have Edius break the clips up as taken, each one has the time code on and work from there
Regards Barry

[Bluetongue]

It would be a nice option to capture HD footage to HQ codec in realtime (something like Premiere+Cineform).
Edius misses HD capture feature. Edius HD Desktop is to expensive when someone wants only capture footage and do only very simple edit.
Edius perfomance on 8 core PC is very good and it's a shame that we can't really use it for HD.

Thanks

Andrew

Perhaps I have missed something here, I use Edius without any capture card.
Capture HDV straight from the camera to Canopus HQ on the fly from the firewire port and the quality is as good as from the camera.
Perhaps I need help in understading the above post
EDius Neo has the same capability
Bewildered Regards Barry

[Jerry]

I have BlackMagic card installed on my machine. It's Directshow compatible.
When I've tried new Edius card didn't apear as a capture device. Why?
It works fine with other directshow capable software.

It would be a nice option to capture HD footage to HQ codec in realtime (something like Premiere+Cineform).
Edius misses HD capture feature. Edius HD Desktop is to expensive when someone wants only capture footage and do only very simple edit.
Edius perfomance on 8 core PC is very good and it's a shame that we can't really use it for HD.

Thanks

Andrew

If you capture in MJPEG codec through the Decklink card, you will be able to get similar RT performance in Edius. I have the Intensity Pro and capture in MJPEG or uncompressed and then edit within Edius.
Not a problem!

[gdame]

It would be a nice option to capture HD footage to HQ codec in realtime (something like Premiere+Cineform).
Edius misses HD capture feature. Edius HD Desktop is to expensive when someone wants only capture footage and do only very simple edit.
Edius perfomance on 8 core PC is very good and it's a shame that we can't really use it for HD.

Thanks

Andrew

Andrew, GV does have a card called the Pegasus that is designed as an ingest/capture card that converts the incoming video to the very high quality Canopus HQ format. It does this "intense" conversion on the fly via it's own hardware processor thus it does not require any special high performance system. The resultant files are perfect for editing in Edius. It comes with its own capture utility that can not be launched at the same time Edius is open if on the same machine. If your material is destined for DVD or Blu-Ray then this is a way for you to still enjoy the advantages of editing in Edius. Seems to me that having a low cost ingest system/s could relieve that process from your editing system and provide for a real nice work-flow.

George Dame - Grass Valley System Integrator - 10yrs.

[STORMDAVE]

Black Magic & Grass Valley are completely different companies, and they both sell their own capture cards...not sure, but it'd be common sense to understand that a competitors card will obviously not work with EDIUS :)

[GrassValley_KH]

Black Magic boards aren't supported in EDIUS, nor are they likely to any time soon.