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    I am running EDIUS 9.52 and using Source Browser to load in DVDs via an internal Pioneer BDR-209M. The DVD appears to load correctly (i.e. the total time is correct); however when I place the clip into the Timeline, the video and audio go blank (i.e. there is no content) after about 30 seconds. This is consistent for every load I have tried. Occasionally, the load is only a partial load (i.e. the total time is less than the actual). On three occasions, EDIUS has gotten a "not responding" condition and created an event log - but EDIUS kept working.

    I have swapped out DVD drives to an ITAPI iHAS324-98, but have the same problem. I can use another PC with EDIUS 6.5 installed and an ITAPI drive, and all the DVDs load via Source Browser with no issues.

    My point is that I am pretty sure I have eliminated the hardware issues, so the problem must be elsewhere.

    Any ideas?
    Tim

    EDIUS 9.52.6153
    VisTitle 2.8.0.5
    OS: Windows 10 (Build 1909)
    Processor: Intel i9-9900K 3.6 GHz (10.0.18362.387)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Designware
    Cooling: Corsair H100i RGB PRO XT
    RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB
    Graphics: Intel UHD 630 (26.20.100.7262)
    Capture: Blackmagicdesign Intensity Pro 4K (10.11.5.0)
    CDR: Pioneer Internal Blu-ray Burner BDR-2209
    Storage: Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB, Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB, 2 Swappable Samsung SSD 860 EVO 2.5TB

  • #2
    Have you tried just copying the files from the DVD to a hard drive and input from there ?
    Ron Evans

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    • #3
      see if the following option is ticked

      personally, I use PGC Demux (free) to rip a DVD to elementary streams and then load direct into EDIUS

      It can demux a full single layer DVD in 10 seconds and you are ready for editing
      Attached Files
      Anton Strauss
      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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      • #4
        Case Closed

        What I discovered (through some of Anton's old postings) was that post-v6 EDIUS versions do not re-construct the audio and video streams of a DVD that was created using a standalone DVD writer. See the two attached screen captures from v6.54 and v9.52 - the "Reconstruct Files" option in the "DVD Video Settings" section is not available in v9.52. I am not sure the reason the feature was removed, but I suspect lawyers and money were involved.

        Nonetheless, the best solution was to use a third-party software to load the audio and videos streams separately (not using Source Browser) and stitch them back together in the Timeline. I really appreciate the responses and advice.
        Attached Files
        Tim

        EDIUS 9.52.6153
        VisTitle 2.8.0.5
        OS: Windows 10 (Build 1909)
        Processor: Intel i9-9900K 3.6 GHz (10.0.18362.387)
        Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Designware
        Cooling: Corsair H100i RGB PRO XT
        RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB
        Graphics: Intel UHD 630 (26.20.100.7262)
        Capture: Blackmagicdesign Intensity Pro 4K (10.11.5.0)
        CDR: Pioneer Internal Blu-ray Burner BDR-2209
        Storage: Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB, Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB, 2 Swappable Samsung SSD 860 EVO 2.5TB

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        • #5
          Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
          see if the following option is ticked

          personally, I use PGC Demux (free) to rip a DVD to elementary streams and then load direct into EDIUS

          It can demux a full single layer DVD in 10 seconds and you are ready for editing
          Is the latest version 1.2.0.5? Care to show a screen shot of your settings? Seems very simple.
          Thanks,
          Ara

          Windows 10 Home 64 Bit, Edius WG 9.55.7303, Edius X WG 10.20.7490 Intel Z370X Motherboard, i7-8700K 4.7 GHz 6 core, 12 Thread LGA-1151 CPU, GTX-1080 8GB Graphics card, 500GB M.2 PCIe NVM SSD, 16 TB Raid 0 Media Drive, 32 GB DDR4 Memory, Intensity Pro 4K AV I/O, CS 5.51 Production Suite.

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          • #6
            yes, that is the latest

            always copy the VIDEO_TS from DVD to hard disk first, then demux takes seconds

            see attached on how to use
            Attached Files
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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            • #7
              Screen Shots

              In addition to Anton's reply, here are some screen shots of how I use it.
              Attached Files
              Tim

              EDIUS 9.52.6153
              VisTitle 2.8.0.5
              OS: Windows 10 (Build 1909)
              Processor: Intel i9-9900K 3.6 GHz (10.0.18362.387)
              Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Designware
              Cooling: Corsair H100i RGB PRO XT
              RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB
              Graphics: Intel UHD 630 (26.20.100.7262)
              Capture: Blackmagicdesign Intensity Pro 4K (10.11.5.0)
              CDR: Pioneer Internal Blu-ray Burner BDR-2209
              Storage: Samsung SSD 970 PRO 512GB, Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB, 2 Swappable Samsung SSD 860 EVO 2.5TB

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              • #8
                Thanks to Anton and Tim.
                Thanks,
                Ara

                Windows 10 Home 64 Bit, Edius WG 9.55.7303, Edius X WG 10.20.7490 Intel Z370X Motherboard, i7-8700K 4.7 GHz 6 core, 12 Thread LGA-1151 CPU, GTX-1080 8GB Graphics card, 500GB M.2 PCIe NVM SSD, 16 TB Raid 0 Media Drive, 32 GB DDR4 Memory, Intensity Pro 4K AV I/O, CS 5.51 Production Suite.

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                • #9
                  Anton. Are the vobs stitched together for each ifo? Also I noticed the audio file was about 5 frames shorter after I created the elementary stream. Is this what you experience?
                  Thanks,
                  Ara

                  Windows 10 Home 64 Bit, Edius WG 9.55.7303, Edius X WG 10.20.7490 Intel Z370X Motherboard, i7-8700K 4.7 GHz 6 core, 12 Thread LGA-1151 CPU, GTX-1080 8GB Graphics card, 500GB M.2 PCIe NVM SSD, 16 TB Raid 0 Media Drive, 32 GB DDR4 Memory, Intensity Pro 4K AV I/O, CS 5.51 Production Suite.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ajcvideo View Post
                    Anton. Are the vobs stitched together for each ifo? Also I noticed the audio file was about 5 frames shorter after I created the elementary stream. Is this what you experience?
                    all vob files within a title set are stitched together automatically
                    some DVDs have more than one title set, so you need to repeat this for additional titles

                    ac3 files can sometimes miss a few frames at the end, that is normal, it won't cause lip sync issues
                    Anton Strauss
                    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                      all vob files within a title set are stitched together automatically
                      some DVDs have more than one title set, so you need to repeat this for additional titles

                      ac3 files can sometimes miss a few frames at the end, that is normal, it won't cause lip sync issues
                      Are you saying the .IFO is a title set?
                      Thanks,
                      Ara

                      Windows 10 Home 64 Bit, Edius WG 9.55.7303, Edius X WG 10.20.7490 Intel Z370X Motherboard, i7-8700K 4.7 GHz 6 core, 12 Thread LGA-1151 CPU, GTX-1080 8GB Graphics card, 500GB M.2 PCIe NVM SSD, 16 TB Raid 0 Media Drive, 32 GB DDR4 Memory, Intensity Pro 4K AV I/O, CS 5.51 Production Suite.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ajcvideo View Post
                        Are you saying the .IFO is a title set?
                        yes, and if there is more than one title, you will see several of these

                        the first IFO is usually the menu and you don't need this, start with the next one
                        Attached Files
                        Anton Strauss
                        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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                        • #13
                          Out of interest Anton, what are you using just to rip a DVD to a single stream ie rename to mpg to put on to a USB stick. I currently reboot an XP drive with 4.6. I think that was the last version that disc capture worked properly.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DigitalDave View Post
                            Out of interest Anton, what are you using just to rip a DVD to a single stream ie rename to mpg to put on to a USB stick. I currently reboot an XP drive with 4.6. I think that was the last version that disc capture worked properly.
                            if I want to rip a DVD to single mpg file, I use the Tmpg MW source wizard

                            the last version where DVD capture worked 100% was 5.51
                            Anton Strauss
                            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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