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  • Chromakey confusion when adding masks and layout.

    I'm sure I've done this before - but can't work out how!
    I have shot chromakey footage where mics etc are in shot which I can easily mask out with the mask tool and turning down the outside section I want to loose to 0%. However, how do I then apply the chromakey and only key out the greenscreen as it then shows the masked section as black bars.
    To complicate things I then want to use the layout tool to position the layer into the right place and scale it.
    The only way I can make this work is try and use the block colour on the mask tool, and also in the layout tool and find the right shade - but I'm sure there is a simple way of telling edius to ignore the masked areas.
    Matt, AdVision TV Ltd

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  • #2
    You can do a search but in layout pit the background color to the same color as your chromakey color.

    I have explained this a few times in detail so a search will get you there. :(
    Steve

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    • #3
      Thanks Steve. Yes - thats the only way Ive ended up doing it - but its a shame that once you mask something and put it at 0%, or crop something, that it doesnt then simply become invisible so that the layer beneath is revealed (a bit like on photoshop)

      Matt
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      • #4
        Its mainly that the chromakey is one of the few effects that still needs updating - hence the blue tick on the effect meaning it is not 10 bit and does not support alpha channels.

        If you use a third party keyer the mask would work properly. Ignite Pro has a pretty good keyer that works with the mask although I have found that it causes crashes occassionally.
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        • #5
          That makes sense David. So does that mean as soon as I apply the Edius Chromakey it degrades the footage down from 10bit to 8bit?
          Does a 3rd party keyer appear as a key affect - or a a video filter? I’m hoping the latter so that you can reorder it (eg put it before or after colour correction etc)
          Matt, AdVision TV Ltd

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          • #6
            I use Robuskey and it is a filter and I usually drag it above the layouter, then I can zoom and position all day long with the layouter
            Anton Strauss
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            • #7
              Thanks Anton. I’ll have a look. Is it 10 bit and ha does 4K nicely?
              Matt, AdVision TV Ltd

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              • #8
                Originally posted by advisiontv View Post
                Thanks Anton. I’ll have a look. Is it 10 bit and ha does 4K nicely?

                yes to all, but you need a good graphics card for realtime 4k playback with Robuskey
                Anton Strauss
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                • #9
                  I have not noticed a degrade in quality using either the chromakey filter or the chrominance filter (which has the same limitation) so I don't know if it just means they only use 8 bit colours to do the job but won't degrade other 10 bit filters or I have simply not noticed them doing so.

                  Robuskey is probably the best third party keyer. Any third party ones turn up as filters and can be re-ordered. Oher options would be Ignite as I mentioned and I think NewBlue does one. There are trial versions of all of these.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by David Clarke View Post
                    Oher options would be Ignite as I mentioned and I think NewBlue does one. There are trial versions of all of these.
                    We do! It's called Chroma Key Pro and you can find out more information (as well as download a trial version) on this page:

                    https://newbluefx.com/products/elements/chroma-key-pro/

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