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  • PAL 720 x 586 to NTSC 720 x 486 - need help

    I have a DVD that is in PAL 720 x 586 and will play on my computer but of course not in a NTSC DVD player and want to convert it to NTSC. Any ideas how I might do this with Edius 4?

    Just for info, I have no PAL player, just a DVD and Edius 4
    "What me worry?" Alfred E. Neuman .. after all, two wrongs don't make a right - BUT - three lefts do :-)

    MacBook Pro (late 2011 8,2) 10.1, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 Gb 1600 DDR 3, 512 GB SSD, Mountain Lion with Parallels, External SATA HDD's on Thunderbolt, Final Cut Pro 7.

    Canon 5DM2, 7D, HF G20 x 2, HF M40, with Beachtek Audio, Pro mixing, mics, both LED and Arri fresnel lighting, portable camera dolly, and camera jib.

  • #2
    Google for DVD Decrypter

    When installed, go to Mode > IFO

    Under stream processing tab to your right, check "Enable streaming". Click on the video and choose "demux" then click on the audio and choose "demux".

    Set your destination and hit on the large rip button.

    Once it's done you will have a .m2v file and .wav (or .ac3 or even .mpa). Edius supports all of these.

    Just load them into Edius, align the audio with video from the first frame in an NTSC project, and then render out to a new NTSC MPEG2 file (and audio if you want, or use the included audio track so you won't have to re-render the audio).

    Burn as usual :)

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    • #3
      Hi STORMDAVE. Thanks for responding. There isn't a way to do this direct in Edius or Procoder? I'll also check out DVD Decrypter in the meantime.
      "What me worry?" Alfred E. Neuman .. after all, two wrongs don't make a right - BUT - three lefts do :-)

      MacBook Pro (late 2011 8,2) 10.1, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 Gb 1600 DDR 3, 512 GB SSD, Mountain Lion with Parallels, External SATA HDD's on Thunderbolt, Final Cut Pro 7.

      Canon 5DM2, 7D, HF G20 x 2, HF M40, with Beachtek Audio, Pro mixing, mics, both LED and Arri fresnel lighting, portable camera dolly, and camera jib.

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      • #4
        it can be done in ProCoder Express with Edius closed

        simply browse for VIDEO_TS folder, select VTS_01_1.VOB as source and then select VOB direct to DVD as target, the resulting DVD will not have a menu
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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        • #5
          Originally posted by antonsvideo
          it can be done in ProCoder Express with Edius closed

          simply browse for VIDEO_TS folder, select VTS_01_1.VOB as source and then select VOB direct to DVD as target, the resulting DVD will not have a menu
          none of the other files under the VIDEO_TS folder? just the ....01_1.VOB? and that's the procoder that came with Edius right? Sorry, I'm new to Edius, a former Avid Liquid guy here.
          "What me worry?" Alfred E. Neuman .. after all, two wrongs don't make a right - BUT - three lefts do :-)

          MacBook Pro (late 2011 8,2) 10.1, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 Gb 1600 DDR 3, 512 GB SSD, Mountain Lion with Parallels, External SATA HDD's on Thunderbolt, Final Cut Pro 7.

          Canon 5DM2, 7D, HF G20 x 2, HF M40, with Beachtek Audio, Pro mixing, mics, both LED and Arri fresnel lighting, portable camera dolly, and camera jib.

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          • #6
            yes, that is the only file, it will automatically join all files belonging to it

            yes, the program that came with Edius
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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            • #7
              Originally posted by antonsvideo
              yes, that is the only file, it will automatically join all files belonging to it

              yes, the program that came with Edius
              I'm just amazed. In Avid Liquid this is a nightmare of a process and since we have been slowly migrating some of our work to Edius this just seems "too" simple. I would have to go through from 4 to 6 steps to get this to happen in Liquid and even then I might have to play with it to get it to work (like lining up the audio and video tracks that would probably be out of sync).

              Also, do you ever use the muliti-cam featureset?
              "What me worry?" Alfred E. Neuman .. after all, two wrongs don't make a right - BUT - three lefts do :-)

              MacBook Pro (late 2011 8,2) 10.1, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 Gb 1600 DDR 3, 512 GB SSD, Mountain Lion with Parallels, External SATA HDD's on Thunderbolt, Final Cut Pro 7.

              Canon 5DM2, 7D, HF G20 x 2, HF M40, with Beachtek Audio, Pro mixing, mics, both LED and Arri fresnel lighting, portable camera dolly, and camera jib.

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              • #8
                I mostly do corporate and training and induction work, so there is no need for multicam

                but many users here use it daily and they all appear happy
                Anton Strauss
                Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                • #9
                  StormDave, the last I checked of DVD Decrypter was it was closed down. Website no more....
                  TingSern
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by antonsvideo
                    I mostly do corporate and training and induction work, so there is no need for multicam but many users here use it daily and they all appear happy
                    most of what we do is multicam and the Avid multicam is so simple it's a crime. one simply sync's the cams with a mark in, timecode, or first marker, and clicks to multicam sync and then click the "new" multicam sync reel in the rack and a multicam window opens where the source viewer is and hit play and start clicking the respective cameras and that's it. on the timeline at any time any place you can switch cameras by razor and right click. it's this feature that is holding us back from being ALL edius just because we watched the free tutorial and it looks complicated.
                    "What me worry?" Alfred E. Neuman .. after all, two wrongs don't make a right - BUT - three lefts do :-)

                    MacBook Pro (late 2011 8,2) 10.1, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 Gb 1600 DDR 3, 512 GB SSD, Mountain Lion with Parallels, External SATA HDD's on Thunderbolt, Final Cut Pro 7.

                    Canon 5DM2, 7D, HF G20 x 2, HF M40, with Beachtek Audio, Pro mixing, mics, both LED and Arri fresnel lighting, portable camera dolly, and camera jib.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tingsern
                      StormDave, the last I checked of DVD Decrypter was it was closed down. Website no more....
                      Actually a search brought up a page where it said that the website was down but had a 'download' link wherein one could download it. I sure hope it's not infested with YUCK or VIRUSES.

                      I'm nervous about all this since we just started using Edius from Avid Liquid just because Liquid doens't support P2 DVCProHD100 and isn't going to either. Moreover, since our primary work is TV shows and film work, we're really worried about getting too deep into Edius until we know more about the multi-cam and 24p features. Tutorials are what we really need.
                      "What me worry?" Alfred E. Neuman .. after all, two wrongs don't make a right - BUT - three lefts do :-)

                      MacBook Pro (late 2011 8,2) 10.1, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 Gb 1600 DDR 3, 512 GB SSD, Mountain Lion with Parallels, External SATA HDD's on Thunderbolt, Final Cut Pro 7.

                      Canon 5DM2, 7D, HF G20 x 2, HF M40, with Beachtek Audio, Pro mixing, mics, both LED and Arri fresnel lighting, portable camera dolly, and camera jib.

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                      • #12
                        the edius multicam is even easier than what you describe

                        you will see all cameras at once on the preview or external monitor and you can then cut while timeline is playing by using 1,2,3,4 etc keys on numeric keypad
                        1= cam1= track1
                        2= cam2=track2
                        etc..

                        you can also cut while paused

                        when the edit is done, you can compress all tracks (instant) to a new track above and add transitions to all cuts in one hit
                        Anton Strauss
                        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                        • #13
                          Wow... If you have matched timecode or even date and timestamp all you have to do is select that type of sync and then select the clips and pull them down.

                          All syn'd up!

                          Then you can play it and simply either left click on the shot you want or press the number on the number pad that is the number of the camera you want.

                          I am not sure how it gets easier than that :)

                          What takes our multicam past most others is that you don't have to watch the video in realtime... If you want to scrub though the video all you have to do is double left click in the timeline ruler where you want a new camera and then pick the desired camera.

                          The only down side at this time is you can't pick several files and assign a camera to them so they will line up on the same video track as one camera.

                          I shot the last Jr. Miss program in Mesa Az with 4 cameras... the program was 4 hours long. I used Multi Cam and I had all of the switches done on 30 Minutes. It was awesome!

                          Give it try... you might like it! :)


                          Mike

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by antonsvideo
                            the edius multicam is even easier than what you describe you will see all cameras at once on the preview or external monitor and you can then cut while timeline is playing by using 1,2,3,4 etc keys on numeric keypad: 1= cam1= track1; 2= cam2=track2; etc..; you can also cut while paused; when the edit is done, you can compress all tracks (instant) to a new track above and add transitions to all cuts in one hit
                            are you serious? that easy? how hard to sync? we don't use timecode we use clapper. is there a mark in feature or the like to sync them AND after setting the sync does it render out a new clip (this latter is what Liquid does and it boggs it down like crazy and best doubled clicked and then wait for the render although you don't have to but sort of hangs)

                            we have a dual xeon, hp8200's, with 2gb ram, and all sata drives. no raid, i don't like raid.
                            "What me worry?" Alfred E. Neuman .. after all, two wrongs don't make a right - BUT - three lefts do :-)

                            MacBook Pro (late 2011 8,2) 10.1, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 Gb 1600 DDR 3, 512 GB SSD, Mountain Lion with Parallels, External SATA HDD's on Thunderbolt, Final Cut Pro 7.

                            Canon 5DM2, 7D, HF G20 x 2, HF M40, with Beachtek Audio, Pro mixing, mics, both LED and Arri fresnel lighting, portable camera dolly, and camera jib.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GrassValley_MD
                              I am not sure how it gets easier than that :)

                              I shot the last Jr. Miss program in Mesa Az with 4 cameras... the program was 4 hours long. I used Multi Cam and I had all of the switches done on 30 Minutes. It was awesome!

                              Give it try... you might like it! :) Mike
                              What turned us on to Edius was a concert that we did where we accidently recorded it on a Firestore 100 where we selected a codec that even Firestore doesn't use any more and found nothing that could see the project. Now since this was a national music figure we were in big time 1080 x 1920 trouble. Nothing could see it. Premier, FCP, Avid Media Composer, Xpress Pro, . . nuttin' Someone said check to see if Edius Procoder could convert it or the like and with 1,000's on the line, we downloaded it and not wanting to risk our Avid editing suites we put it on an Athlon 1.5 GHz IDE machine with 5400rpm drives and not only did Edius see the clip (no procoder) but it edited it, rendered it out, and burned an MPEG2 that we could see, burn to dvd, and deliver. WOW!
                              "What me worry?" Alfred E. Neuman .. after all, two wrongs don't make a right - BUT - three lefts do :-)

                              MacBook Pro (late 2011 8,2) 10.1, 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 Gb 1600 DDR 3, 512 GB SSD, Mountain Lion with Parallels, External SATA HDD's on Thunderbolt, Final Cut Pro 7.

                              Canon 5DM2, 7D, HF G20 x 2, HF M40, with Beachtek Audio, Pro mixing, mics, both LED and Arri fresnel lighting, portable camera dolly, and camera jib.

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