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  • How to fix moiré

    Has anybody a golden tip to fix or even avoid moiré.
    Or is it a camera issue ?
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  • #2
    First of all. Use OLP Filter on camera e.g. Rawlite, Mosaic. I use Rawlite on my BM Pocket (original) and Micro.

    In post you can use BeautyBox plugin.
    https://youtu.be/pIRO9-9awiE

    Sometimes using of chrominance helped. Same process like above.
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    • #3
      Unfortunately I don't own a BM camera,and I don't find external filters who does the job.
      Software = no Premier pro.
      Bud thanks for the input.
      Edd
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      • #4
        I found a way with Mask to select the most affected areas and put some blur to it,and the result looks much better !
        THX.
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        • #5
          Moire patterns happen in the image when the item being shot contains regular patterns, such as Venetian blinds or clothing patterns, that are close to the spacing of the sensors (pixels) on the imaging device or "beat" with the spacing, especially raster line spacing. It is also called spatial aliasing. One solution is to avoid those types of objects in the scene if you can. That is way TV talking heads don't wear patterned shirts. Changing the zoom setting or camcorder position may help.

          You also can see it if you scan magazine images at certain resolutions. Scanner programs often have a "de screen" filter setting to minimize this.

          What camera was used to shoot the video?
          Last edited by dpalomaki; 12-03-2019, 02:52 PM.

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          • #6
            A Sony PXW-X70 with the 4K software.
            During a panorama,with lots of roof tops, the roof tiles gave (seen at home ! )
            an enormous moire.
            Avoiding that is i.m.o. inevitable.
            i'm gone try to solve that with some local ( mask ) blur effect .
            Thx.
            Edd
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            • #7
              are these 4k clips in a HD project? If so, make sure Lanczos3 HQ is enabled in EDIUS project settings to eliminate these issues
              Anton Strauss
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              • #8
                You may also notice that in UHD they are not there , at HD they may not be there but when encoded for SD they appear depending on TV and any upscaling from a disc to the TV. This is why Lanczos 3 is important for all these cases.
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                • #9
                  4K clips in a 4k project,Lanczos 3 was set "smoother",I've set it now to sharper (best for progressive movie).
                  I don't have a HD setting,probably because it's the pro version I have.
                  Are there advantage in filming 4K and encoding in a HD project ?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by edver1 View Post
                    4K clips in a 4k project, Lanczos 3 was set "smoother",I've set it now to sharper (best for progressive movie).
                    I don't have a HD setting, probably because it's the pro version I have.
                    Are there advantage in filming 4K and encoding in a HD project ?
                    you can make any SD, HD, 4k or custom size preset in the Pro version

                    if you are viewing via a dedicated output card connected to a 4k TV, all should look well (don't use a 4k PC monitor)
                    Anton Strauss
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                    • #11
                      Anton,Ron,Jerry and all you guy's
                      Thanks for Your'e input (once again).
                      The dedicated card and a decent monitor are on my list for Santa claus (here it's Sinterklaas),and I've been good so maybe ?
                      I will see this evening what the mask and blur effect do.
                      Thx
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by edver1 View Post
                        Anton,Ron,Jerry and all you guy's
                        Thanks for Your'e input (once again).
                        The dedicated card and a decent monitor are on my list for Santa claus (here it's Sinterklaas),and I've been good so maybe ?
                        I will see this evening what the mask and blur effect do.
                        Thx
                        Yess, they are all very helpfull and they deserve a lot of thanks.

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