Neat Video Plugin Position

[nictau]

Does anyone know, whether Neat Video filter has still to be placed on top of all other filters? Haven't found information in update notes.

Thanks.

[GrassValley_PS]

Yes it should be.

[Seemedia]

Yup. BTW Pat, Edius Manager still showing version 4. I have 5 and it works perfectly! Just saying :)

[nictau]

Is there any difference between on top of all filters or even on top of the layouter?

[Seemedia]

Of course. Especially with Mask.

[GrassValley_SL]

Actually the mask depends on what you are trying to achieve.

[Seemedia]

That's what I meant. Especially if you want to remove an object on a clip using 2 of the same clips on two separate tracks.

https://youtu.be/rtpaOeZF3SU

[nictau]

Of course. Especially with Mask.

in other words, it is best (or even necessary) to place the Neat filter always on top of the layouter - right?

[Seemedia]

This effect must be in the superior role. Same as colorgrading. Each effect must be used in the predefined order. Otherwise, the result will be different.

[nictau]

This effect must be in the superior role. Same as colorgrading. Each effect must be used in the predefined order. Otherwise, the result will be different.

Hey Pawel, if I put the Neat filter above all other filters but below the layouter, I can see no difference in the image, presumed that the layouter settings have not been altert.

[Seemedia]

Neat Video would have problem if you move the footage in Layouter (eg.zoom). So for the safty I would recomend to keep it above the Layouter.

[ulyssesvideo]

Neat Video would have problem if you move the footage in Layouter (eg.zoom). So for the safty I would recomend to keep it above the Layouter.

if you place your footage into another sequence and apply neat video, you can then place that sequence into the main timeline your editing on and then apply a zoom or do anything u like and neat video will not be affected as its on another timeline sequence.

[Seemedia]

Why so complicated? Convert your files to the Sequence. Nevertheless. I don't understand the problem with the Neat Video above the Layouter :)

[kpot]

I don't understand the problem with the Neat Video above the Layouter :)

Hi:
1. The following situation will get you into trouble:
- You want NeatVideo on a clip and
- the Edius stabilizer as well.

a) All stabilizers (Edius, Mercalli2 and 4) must/should take the first position (= above the layout). / / The Edius stabilizer occupies this first position anyway fix!
b) NeatVideo must/should take the first position (= above the layouter).

2. The next consideration is even more annoying:
A) Stabilizers work better if the underlying clip is noise reduced. Therefore the order should be: NeatVideo above, Stabilizer below.
B) NeatVideo works better if the underlying clip has already been stabilized. Therefore, the order should be: Stabilizer up, NeatVideo below.


3. Alternatives:
- Using nested sequences is one way to overcome this circulus vitiosus.
- Using SHIFT+Q could be an alternative.
- Exporting could be another alternative.


4. As NeatVideo is very ressource- and timeconsuming many users decide for the compromise:
- First run NeatVideo using one of the alternatives of 3.
- Then use that noise reduced result to work with it (e.g. stabilizing etc).

Regards kurt

[Seemedia]

Yeah Kurt. This is the perfect explanation ;)