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    Hello!

    I've recently upgraded my editing system and am hoping to be able to do some live capturing via HDMI. I've been working in DV and have upgraded to the Sony PXW-X70 camera. I loved the workflow of being able to capture directly from my old Sony PD-150 via firewire directly into Edius. I'd like to be able to have the same workflow via HDMI.

    I know this is possible but which capture card would you guys recommend? I've already spent a fair amount on the system so I'm hoping to not break the bank on a capture card.

    New system specs are:

    Gigabyte X479 Aorus Gaming 5 mobo
    AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 Ghz
    Kingston HyperX Fury 16Gb RAM
    Nvidia Quadra P2000 5Gb
    Seagate 4Tb Ironwolf HDD
    Windows 10 Home 64bit

    Thanks for your help!

    Mike

  • #2
    You don't need to capture like DV. Get a fast SD card reader and ingest into the computer at the speed of the card used in the X70. I use Sony Catalyst Browse to ingest my XAVC files. Files from my AX100 are similar to the X70 and will transfer a 2 hours show in about 6 or 7 mins.

    I paid $22.99 Can from Amazon.ca for a multicard USB-C card reader.
    Ron Evans

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Foundry Films View Post
      Hello!

      I've recently upgraded my editing system and am hoping to be able to do some live capturing via HDMI. I've been working in DV and have upgraded to the Sony PXW-X70 camera. I loved the workflow of being able to capture directly from my old Sony PD-150 via firewire directly into Edius. I'd like to be able to have the same workflow via HDMI.

      I know this is possible but which capture card would you guys recommend? I've already spent a fair amount on the system so I'm hoping to not break the bank on a capture card.

      New system specs are:

      Gigabyte X479 Aorus Gaming 5 mobo
      AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 Ghz
      Kingston HyperX Fury 16Gb RAM
      Nvidia Quadra P2000 5Gb
      Seagate 4Tb Ironwolf HDD
      Windows 10 Home 64bit

      Thanks for your help!

      Mike
      you don't need to capture at all from that camera as mentioned, file transfer via EDIUS source browser will be many times faster than capture

      However, if you insist on HDMI capture, get a Black Magic Mini recorder card, dirt cheap
      https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/...specs/W-DLK-05 (approx $180 US)
      Anton Strauss
      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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      • #4
        Just to add to Anton and Ron's input.

        Yes file copying via a card reader is way faster, and yes if you insist on HDMI capture, a BM device of some type is the cheapest route.

        Here is the BUT: there is no machine control via HDMI like you are used to with firewire, so you would have to manually start and stop the capture.

        Go with the card reader.
        Edius WG 9.55.9157, various 3rd party plugins, VisTitle 2.9.6.0, Win 7 Ultimate SP1, i7-4790K @ 4GHz with HD4600 GPU embedded, MSI Z97 Gaming 7 Motherboard, 32GB Kingston HyperX RAM, nVidia GTX680 4GB GPU, Matrox MX02 Mini MAX, Corsair 750W PSU, Corsair H110i GT Water Cooler, Corsair C70 case, 8TB Internal RAID 0/stripe (2x4TB Seagate SATAIII HDD's, Win7 Software stripe), 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD, Pioneer BDR-207D, Dual 1920x1080 monitors (one on GTX680 and one on Intel HD4600).

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        • #5
          I also use a usb 3 card reader for transfer of files from the camera
          Lot less hassle no need to connect cam via its psu etc plus you record less hours used for the PXW
          System Asus WS Z390 Pro MB, CPU i9 9900K, 32gb 3000mhz Ram, EVGA GTX1070TI, BM IP4K Win 10, BD Burner 1 Evo 840 and 4 Hotswap caddies
          Plugins Vistitle 2.8, TP7, NB TFX5
          Monitors Samsung 32 inch tv as main 1 LG M2350D,1 D2343 1 DM2350D as output to (3D) IP4K, PXW X70,Canon FX400

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          • #6
            That's how I do it also...USB 3 card reader.
            Documentaries and Art Projects
            Hudson Valley, NY

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            windows 10
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            • #7
              Thanks for the feedback guys.

              What I like about the live capture is being able to organize the files I need quickly as well as being able to review the footage quickly.

              I film auditions for actors (@mikewollinstudios on instagram if anyone cares) :) so they often shoot multiple takes of the scene(s) and usually they want to review their work after each take. Without a capture card, I need to either plug my camera into a monitor for the talent to view their work and cycle through the thumbnails...not a huge issue but it is a bit time consuming/finicky and constantly plugging/unplugging the HDMI cable I feel like it will add a lot of unnecessary wear & tear.

              I also need to keep track of what take the actor would like to use in the submission. Popping my memory card in/out of the camera numerous times a days to transfer files again sounds like a lot of wear/tear on the camera and the card reader. I know how delicate this stuff can be. Unless there is some way to organize the clips in the camera, it's difficult/quite time consuming to have to cycle through the clips after the session in order to determine the take the actor wants to use. I do anywhere from 5-12 of these a day so I don't usually have a lot of free time.

              BernH mentioned I'd have to stand beside my computer and manually start/stop the capture...well that is exactly what I have been doing for the past 14 years and it's been great. Capture the scene, rename it and quickly review it on my computer. Once they actor decides on the take to use, it's already in Edius and I can pop it on the timeline quickly. However I do appreciate you mentioning that.

              John Lewis, you mentioned I'd "record less hours used for the PXW" by using a card reader but capturing the footage live, there is no need for me to ever record onto a memory card and thus I never really log any record hours on the camera itself. Unless I'm missing something?

              Probably would have been better to explain my workflow in the first post. As mentioned I've had the workflow for over a decade and it's worked great for me. Unless I'm completely missing something or if you guys can think of/know of a better work flow, I'm all ears. Maybe I've been working with DV for so long that I've missed some time saving steps somewhere?

              If there aren't any suggestions then I'l l probably look into the Blackmagic card. I'll also purchase a fast card reader as well since I'll need that regardless. :)

              Thanks again for your time gentleman.

              Mike

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              • #8
                I've found the BM Intensity Pro and Pro 4K work for HDMI capture, including sources such as set top boxes, keep in mind that they do respect copy protection.

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                • #9
                  Update!

                  I've purchased the BM Intensity Pro 4K card. Easy install and easy set-up. Was capturing away about 45 minutes after getting the card installed.

                  Thanks for the advice gang!

                  Mike

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