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    Hello,

    After finishing a project (HD in video 50 interlaced) I export on MP4 or burn a BD.

    The only problem is when people read the video via their computer (MP4 on USB key or BD)... Some animations or movements are vibrating and not smooth... A logo moving horizontaly is shaking.

    Is there a solution ?

    I suppose that what is on BD can not be changed... but should some parameters of the project be change to give a beter result ? Or exporting parameters ?

    Thank in advance
    Yvon durieux alias "Haddock" Belgium GMT + 2

    Sorry for my poor english, I am french native speaking

    Main System: Azus Z87 Pro, [email protected], 16gb ram, Nvidia GeForce GT 630, Windows 7 Pro 64, Samsung 840 pro, Edius 8.53.2808 WG and 9.54.6706 + NXexpress or HDspark, 2T separate video SSD.

  • #2
    What is the data rate of the file you exported? You haven't provided much info to go with to analyze the problem. Animation playback problems can be caused by a number of things. How was the animation created for example? Does the animation play properly on your timeline? Does it play properly anywhere after export?
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    • #3
      If the wrong field order is set for interlace that could also cause playback issues. Peter
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Haddock View Post
        Hello,

        After finishing a project (HD in video 50 interlaced) I export on MP4 or burn a BD.

        The only problem is when people read the video via their computer (MP4 on USB key or BD)... Some animations or movements are vibrating and not smooth... A logo moving horizontaly is shaking.

        Is there a solution ?

        I suppose that what is on BD can not be changed... but should some parameters of the project be change to give a beter result ? Or exporting parameters ?

        Thank in advance
        This is probably because the footage is interlaced. If you try making a deinterlaced version it should help, although Edius isn't very good at this.

        Interlaced footage is always inherently an issue for progressive screens. Some players are better than others and will de-interlace.

        As Peter has mentioned, field order can be a problem. If your BD playback is jerky it could suggest field order, although could be a problem mixing progressive content with an interlaced project.

        If your BDs playback on a TV and look fine and your MP4 files look bad on a computer, it would suggest it's just interlaced playback problems.

        Again, for all of Edius' excellent points, handling progressive media in an interlaced project and the other way round, isn't one of them.

        If you are confident that your interlaced master is fine, maybe try using something that can deinterlace or properly tag interlaced footage for your MP4 files.

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        • #5
          BTW. How did you monitor when you were editing in Edius, via the computer screen or via an external monitor using a proper video output?

          Also, in the future if you are using progressive footage you can actually do the whole project in 25P, meaning titles and everything, and you can flag this as interlaced for BD, effectively PsF.

          "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


          If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

          Is your Robot three laws safe?

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          • #6
            Thanks to you all,

            As you can see in my signature, I am editing with a video output via HDspark and HDMI connection to a Classical Sony TV.

            Here are the parameters of all projects I do in video HD. So I am editing interlaced and on TV screen all movements are perfect...

            Exporting on USB key in MP4... it gives perfect result on a SmartTV all movements are also perfect...

            So I am searching a way to export for PC...

            Is 50P a solution ? Have I to adapt first the parameters of the project ?

            Thanks again to you all
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            Yvon durieux alias "Haddock" Belgium GMT + 2

            Sorry for my poor english, I am french native speaking

            Main System: Azus Z87 Pro, [email protected], 16gb ram, Nvidia GeForce GT 630, Windows 7 Pro 64, Samsung 840 pro, Edius 8.53.2808 WG and 9.54.6706 + NXexpress or HDspark, 2T separate video SSD.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Haddock View Post
              Thanks to you all,

              As you can see in my signature, I am editing with a video output via HDspark and HDMI connection to a Classical Sony TV.

              Here are the parameters of all projects I do in video HD. So I am editing interlaced and on TV screen all movements are perfect...

              Exporting on USB key in MP4... it gives perfect result on a SmartTV all movements are also perfect...

              So I am searching a way to export for PC...

              Is 50P a solution ? Have I to adapt first the parameters of the project ?

              Thanks again to you all
              Computer screens are progressive. The player used to play a video may or may not handle the interlaced to progressive conversion correctly, which causes the problem.

              50P can work on a computer, but it may not work on older TV's, so you will likey still need two different versions.

              If you are already working/exporting at 25i, you could just de-interlace that for the computer. Personally I would probably use handbrake for the de-interlaced computer version, as it has several different settings. You can choose best one for your uses or just leave it on de-comb, which is supposed to be an intelligent de-interlace, that preserved more of the original quality than many others, but only works on framed that need it.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BernH View Post
                Computer screens are progressive. The player used to play a video may or may not handle the interlaced to progressive conversion correctly, which causes the problem.

                50P can work on a computer, but it may not work on older TV's, so you will likey still need two different versions.

                If you are already working/exporting at 25i, you could just de-interlace that for the computer. Personally I would probably use handbrake for the de-interlaced computer version, as it has several different settings. You can choose best one for your uses or just leave it on de-comb, which is supposed to be an intelligent de-interlace, that preserved more of the original quality than many others, but only works on framed that need it.
                Thanks for help, but converting with Handbrake is not giving good result....

                Exporting from Edius in 50P is also not changing anything

                May be no solution...
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                Yvon durieux alias "Haddock" Belgium GMT + 2

                Sorry for my poor english, I am french native speaking

                Main System: Azus Z87 Pro, [email protected], 16gb ram, Nvidia GeForce GT 630, Windows 7 Pro 64, Samsung 840 pro, Edius 8.53.2808 WG and 9.54.6706 + NXexpress or HDspark, 2T separate video SSD.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Haddock View Post
                  Thanks for help, but converting with Handbrake is not giving good result.
                  I usually find it quite good. Can you specify in which ways it is not a "good" result? Maybe there is one or the other setting to make in Handbrake to bring "good" enough results.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Captain View Post
                    I usually find it quite good. Can you specify in which ways it is not a "good" result? Maybe there is one or the other setting to make in Handbrake to bring "good" enough results.
                    you beat me to the question ;)
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                    • #11
                      Handbrake works well here, do not use any of the supplied presets

                      type tff=1 in extra options

                      I see no issues playing interlaced from Handbrake on a PC via MPC
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                      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                        Handbrake works well here, do not use any of the supplied presets

                        type tff=1 in extra options

                        I see no issues playing interlaced from Handbrake on a PC via MPC
                        We were talking abut de-interlacing for players that don't interpret the field flag correctly.
                        Edius WG 9.55.9157, various 3rd party plugins, VisTitle 2.9.6.0, Win 7 Ultimate SP1, i7-4790K @ 4GHz with HD4600 GPU embedded, MSI Z97 Gaming 7 Motherboard, 32GB Kingston HyperX RAM, nVidia GTX680 4GB GPU, Matrox MX02 Mini MAX, Corsair 750W PSU, Corsair H110i GT Water Cooler, Corsair C70 case, 8TB Internal RAID 0/stripe (2x4TB Seagate SATAIII HDD's, Win7 Software stripe), 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD, Pioneer BDR-207D, Dual 1920x1080 monitors (one on GTX680 and one on Intel HD4600).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                          Handbrake works well here, do not use any of the supplied presets

                          type tff=1 in extra options

                          I see no issues playing interlaced from Handbrake on a PC via MPC
                          Thanks, but I do not found where it is ...
                          Yvon durieux alias "Haddock" Belgium GMT + 2

                          Sorry for my poor english, I am french native speaking

                          Main System: Azus Z87 Pro, [email protected], 16gb ram, Nvidia GeForce GT 630, Windows 7 Pro 64, Samsung 840 pro, Edius 8.53.2808 WG and 9.54.6706 + NXexpress or HDspark, 2T separate video SSD.

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                          • #14
                            Anton has already told you it goes in the 'Extra Option' section , Look under the video tab at the bottom. (as we say in the UK you need to go to 'specsavers')
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Peterjames View Post
                              Anton has already told you it goes in the 'Extra Option' section , Look under the video tab at the bottom. (as we say in the UK you need to go to 'specsavers')
                              Sorry but I did not see that I have to "Type". I was looking for a box to tick with the name ttf.

                              Just a question to read with more attention...

                              I redo it... no beter view.... its still shaking.

                              Thanks for help
                              Yvon durieux alias "Haddock" Belgium GMT + 2

                              Sorry for my poor english, I am french native speaking

                              Main System: Azus Z87 Pro, [email protected], 16gb ram, Nvidia GeForce GT 630, Windows 7 Pro 64, Samsung 840 pro, Edius 8.53.2808 WG and 9.54.6706 + NXexpress or HDspark, 2T separate video SSD.

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