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  • Capture of Analogue material.

    It is many years since I had to capture a VHS tape to my Edius 7.53 and I have forgotten how. As I recall I connect a VHS player to my Sony DVCam DSR-20 recorder which has AV inputs and a 1394 Firewire output which I feed into my desktop computer but when I click on the 'Capture' tag it is greyed out.
    There must be a setting or something I have forgotten. Looking for suggestions.
    Maurice R Fleisher

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    You need to make a capture preset in the system settings - hardware. You are capturing from DV if I understand correctly - the VHS goes through the DV recorder to the computer. So you need to make a DV capture preset.

    I made some videos about setting up EDIUS 9 which you can see here: http://www.dvctraining.co.uk/installing-edius-9/

    In the 4th section there is something about setting up DV capture presets. This is done in EDIUS 9 but EDIUS 7 is pretty much the same.

    Once you have a capture preset you can select it and everything should work. If you still don't see a picture then test it using a DV tape playing in the DV camera to make sure that you can capture that. If you can then there maybe another setting in the camera to let an analogue input signal pass through the DV recorder.
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    • #3
      And remember that with firewire the order in which you turn on devices can be crucial. I have a ADVC-300 device connected via firewire. In order for Edius to see and use it, the device needs to be turned on in the first place and after that the computer can be booted. It won't work vice versa in my case, but it might be different for you.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Captain View Post
        And remember that with firewire the order in which you turn on devices can be crucial. I have a ADVC-300 device connected via firewire. In order for Edius to see and use it, the device needs to be turned on in the first place and after that the computer can be booted. It won't work vice versa in my case, but it might be different for you.
        Thanks for your response. After Dave Clarke's reply I realised I had lost system settings due to a reinstall some while back.

        Interestingly I have an ADVC-50 which I thought should also do the trick as it has av in and firewire out but I haven't managed to get it to pass data through to the computer although my DVCAM recorder does.
        Maurice R Fleisher

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        • #5
          Any changes to the computer or operating system since you last captured? Some automatic updates may change drivers on you. You will probably need the Legacy OHCI IEEE1394 driver; it is not automatically installed by Windows.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dpalomaki View Post
            Any changes to the computer or operating system since you last captured? Some automatic updates may change drivers on you. You will probably need the Legacy OHCI IEEE1394 driver; it is not automatically installed by Windows.
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            Thanks for that tip. I had two entries of the driver, both the same. I have now changed both to legacy however I have just posted more problems on the same quest.
            Maurice
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            • #7
              I find capture very temperamental. Currently using Edius 8.3 on a second system with NX card on analogue inputs. Have device presets correctly set. I select a capture preset, and most of the time capture remains greyed out. Sometimes opening a previous project that capture worked i can get the Capture option to work. Sometimes this doesnt work, I reboot windows and then capture works as normal. Been like this for a long time and previous versions of Edius, upgrades havent changed and have never figured out a reliable fix other than leaving the computer on 24/7 when manage to get it working.
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              • #8
                If I remember correctly there is something about legacy drivers that must be used sometimes for Firewire input. Another approach is to capture the video outside of Edius if you have another capture software, though Edius should be able to do this. But the use of the right driver should enable Edius. So see if you have a legacy driver for Firewire available.
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                • #9
                  What is your source media, is it VHS? I know that those protected with Macrovision will be grayed-out.
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                  Jon

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                  • #10
                    Capture of Analogue material.

                    Many thanks to all who responded. I eventually managed to capture at that time however I have now run across another situation that is perplexing in the extreme.

                    I was given a number of Hi8 tapes to convert to DVD. Whilst I was able to start capturing into Edius it would keep stopping with a notice saying in effect "The target device is too slow". It might run ok for half hour or more or it might run for only one or two minutes before stopping. With 8 tapes to capture this became a bit, nay a lot, of a nightmare.

                    Because I needed to edit I wanted to get the footage on to a timeline so I ended up by burning the source material on to a DVD recorder (which seemed not so fussed about stopping), ripped that disk data into a digital format and imported the file into Edius. Talk about convoluted!!

                    The point is that I tried original capture using Edius to two different external hard drives both of which I have used for years and never come across this problem before....and they were far from full. Any thoughts on possible explanations appreciated.
                    Maurice R Fleisher

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                    • #11
                      That's an old bug but I found early on that using OHCI and not the NX card DV overcame it. Fortunately I have OHCI on the component NX card as well as the Audigy sound card on my legacy systems.
                      If you do go down that route (unless you're running 4.6) then you will need to make appropriate capture and project presets.

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                      • #12
                        Also be sure that when using a capturing preset, it is often set to capture uncompressed by default. A lot of computers do not have the throughput to do that. If that is the case, set it to something different.
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                        • #13
                          capture VHS tapes

                          I use "Dazzle" it comes with software. I run the cables from my Panasonic AG-7650 recorder with TBC into Dazzle, capture then bring the file into Edius and edit the from there. Dazzle works very well. Connects to computer with USB.

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