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    I'm using Edius 6.08 and uploading to youtube. My original method was to create the video and export as a HQ file and then import that into Staxrip to convert to mp4 using the x264 codec.

    Problem is that I get very noticable jagged edges on any movement in the final video. I'm shooting 1080 50p footage from Panasonic G9 and various other Panasonic cameras. I'm editing in 1080i timeline. When I play through the timeline on my desktop there are no jagged edges.

    I then tried exporting directly from Edius as mp4 files. These are cleaner as far as jagged edges are concerned but they're a little mushy as far as quality is concerned. Also the fade to black transitions are not great.

    Can anyone give me some advice on this issue. Would I get better results with a later version of Edius ...??

  • #2
    youtube will convert anything you upload, so you may as well upload HQX files (if the project is not hours)

    you can also upload mpeg2 program stream, very good and fast export from EDIUS

    for best mp4, use Handbrake
    Anton Strauss
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    • #3
      Thanks Anton.

      Do you normally load HQ into Handbrake ...??

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      • #4
        I don't use HQ or HQX in Handbrake because I work fast, so I use mpeg2 HD program streams 4:2:2 50mbps which makes Handbrake work 3 times faster in encoding

        However, if your source is 4k, you need to use HQX
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        • #5
          Just one more question Anton.

          Do you think the mp4 exporter in the later editions of Edius are much improved from Edius 6 ...??

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          • #6
            yes, the mp4 exporter is much improved, but not as good and fast as Handbrake at this stage
            Anton Strauss
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            • #7
              Handbreak would do better deinterlacing from a 50i clip then EDIUS, however, you could edit at 50P and upload 50P to YouTube.
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              • #8
                Thank you David

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                • #9
                  I had a 4K 25p driving through the Rainforest clip that I wanted to export out to H.264 for YT. Could not get a good H.264 encode so I just exported out a HQX clip and ran it through Handbreak to get a 35mbps 4kUHD H.265 clip for YT. It looks very good indeed. YT can take H.265 clips no probs.
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                  • #10
                    YT can also handle HQ/X for anyone who doesn't have any file size or upload speed/bandwidth issues. This will also mean the best possible picture quality from an Edius project. As Anton has said.

                    If file size is an issue and a target of 35Mb/s is what's needed for a h.264 YT intermediate, then it's highly unlikely that there'll be any difference between using Edius or any X264 based encoder. The only benefit to going outside of Edius for that type of stuff, is if you are wanting better handling of interlacing etc. As David Clarke has said.

                    The only real benefit for using anything outside of Edius for h.264 is concerned (aside from interlace stuff) is for low bandwidth/bitrates stuff, which is where X264 can be a better option with the right settings. This can also benefit authoring streams for BD.

                    Edius really does have a very good h.264 encoder (two options) for progressive material, even at modest bitrates.

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                    • #11
                      Well my 4k HQX file came in at 137 gigs so not going to load that to YT.
                      Handbreak converted it to 4k - 9.50 gig H.265, quality is amazing.

                      I could not get the same quality using H.264 with EDIUS or the TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC even at 35mbps. It was a 4K camera mounted on front of a 4x4 and Adventure bike {Africa Twin} traveling through the forests. Just too much detail to compress I guess.
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                      • #12
                        Did you not try to do the H.265 directly from the Edius timeline? Your 8700k has the capability.
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                        • #13
                          Yes I have the 8700k but still on Version 8.53 Workgroup here, you need 9 to export H.265 right?
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                          • #14
                            I wouldn't advise h.265 unless it's for yourself and you can play it back, or if you know that where ever it is going to it will be able to get played.

                            h.264 is the safest option for general compatibility, especially for 4K, UHD and HFR and MPEG2 is almost guaranteed as far as compatibility is concerned for HD and below.

                            The main issue with all this stuff is compatibility. H.265 is better for many reasons, not least of all for smaller high quality files at high resolutions and frame rates. But if you're not sure where it's going, it could be a real issue.

                            BTW. What I've just said isn't to do with any comments in this post, it's just advice for anyone who reads this post and who isn't completely sure of what to use.

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                            If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

                            Is your Robot three laws safe?

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