CAN WE HAVE A STICKY on hardware

[Imagine Video]

This is a mine field!! The CANOPUS website is as far behind as I would be in an olympic dash..............

This could have a disclaimer to state it is forum members experience only!!

But it would be nice to have a reference other than posters signatures!!

would include:

Motherboard used
Graphics card used
Processor type and speed
Make or Ram used and how much
Power supply used
Monitors used

Could this be done without it getting to messy??


Cath

[Fred Dwyer]

Cath:
I'm sorry to see you are so upset. Can't imagine what you would expect from forum members other than their experience. Give it a chance. Most folks find it a very valuable asset.

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Cath:
I'm sorry to see you are so upset. Can't imagine what you would expect from forum members other than their experience. Give it a chance. Most folks find it a very valuable asset.

You have mis understood my post.

I am not upset at all I have a fully working system.

I am suggesting we have a sticky for hardware list that is relevant Un-like the Canopus web site that seems to be a little behind in its recommendations for hardware to work with the current range of products it has for sale. NX e for example.

It has been asked for before and it would be an excellent resource for NEW people wanting to build systems to work with Edius.

It would have helped me!

I asked a lot of questions here and got the answers I needed to build my own system. BUT I still had to take a chance or two on a few components that are available now.

My request is to have a place for a list of componants OTHERS are using! I am not expecting anything more than that.

I know some users have their system spec in a sig at the bottom of their posts, but to collate it all and have a list of componants would be so much easier for new or potential users of EDIUS.

The disclaimer would be for GV so people know its only other users recommendations they are looking at.

Cath

[Bandman]

I am suggesting we have a sticky for hardware list that is relevant Un-like the Canopus web site that seems to be a little behind in its recommendations for hardware.

Good recommendation. I would like to see this, too. Perhaps the listed components could be reviewed and updated each time there is a major version release of a GV product?

[Fred Dwyer]

Cath:
Your second post is clear and explains your idea fully. It's a good suggestion and works so much better without insulting the current quality of this community.

[tingsern]

So, how would you propose to go about doing this? Somebody must sit down and compile the 100's of components that go into the editing system. We will feed that person with our system's data.

I think we have to be more rigid in defining what to go in to the final list - motherboards, I/O (whether SCSI, SATA, or IDE, RAID or non RAID), video card, what Canopus h/w is installed, power supply used, type of CPU (Pentium, Core 2, Xeons, AMD, etc), memory installed ... etc, etc.

Let's have a consensus first - what is relevant to a video editing system? I would say - memory amount is not one of them. Motherboard is important - as some of them could not be used with Canopus NX h/w, because of resource conflicts? I/O is very important - because video editing is I/O bound, not CPU bound - unless you count real time special effects in.

TS

[Imagine Video]

without insulting the current quality of this community

How have you got this! even from my original post!!

I would NOT insult the quality of this community Please re read my post in the context of the header!!!



I would think it could be managed by way of a section here called hardware, people could just list there hardware in a field that would be headed with the relevent componants and make model used for that particular user.

I think a definite destinction between the two groups pro and broadcast pro would be needed as we all dont need uncompresses capable media drive arrays.

This is all just a suggestion to help new users, and to make it easier for people to see what is required to run edius smoothly.


Cath

[tingsern]

Cath,

Not so easy. For example, the "Hard Disk Too Slow" problem upon capture. I, for instance, will NEVER experience that problem. Because I don't capture. Just because my system is suitable for me does not imply it won't cause problems to the next person.

Also, what makes you think the broadcast pro will demand uncompressed media? I think the folks who will use uncompressed 4:4:4 are those filming for the big screen only. Most of us here - including broadcast pro will definitely compress - as no bandwidth exists through the airwaves today that allows transmission of uncompressed video. Especially HD uncompressed.

I like your idea. Especially to serve as a more up to date h/w list of EDIUS capable h/w. When I looked at the Canopus site - it really looks dated. However, the first paragraph example I quote should serve caution to the people whom might think the list represents "gospel truth".

Cheers,
TS

[pjsssss]

Cath, I think you misunderstood Fred. I took his post as meaning it was a good idea becuase it did not insult the community.

[drgagx]

Cath, I think it is a good idea to post HW outlines in signature lines. It has been the practice as far back as I can recall (2002) on this and the predecessor Canopus forums. Are you going to include yours in the future?

However I think that this can only be a guide to what is known to work with Edius/GV software and hardware. It may or may not necessarily be appropriate for a specific user as there are now so many different types of user, with different inputs, editing needs and outputs. I am sure that my setup, as a hobbyist here, will be anathema to most of those who use Edius to earn a living.

[GrassValley_BH]

The unfortunate fact of the matter is with the constant revisions of BIOSes, motherboards themselves and not the mention the other components involved, it's virtually impossible to guarantee that what works for one user will 100% work for another, even if they are the same components, because no two components are 100% the same.

That's why we have turnkey systems. The price is a bit higher than you would pay by piecing together a system yourself, but the extra money is well worth the peace of mind to know that you have a system that's been tested and backed by GV support.

My general rule applies: You pay either way - in time or money.

Much like myself, tingsern has obviously "pre-paid" in a lot of time to earn wisdom, but if you haven't already "pre-paid" and you don't necessarily want to learn a lot about the fickleness of computer technology, I'd definitely consider the turnkey route.

Once I built my own PVR... that went through 2 and a half build generations. Then I got a TiVo. If I was to do it all over, I'd skip the building my own part entirely and go straight to TiVo.

[Bluetongue]

Brandon I could not agree with you more, my system was working perfectly until I added 2x22 inch Samsung monitors and then I started loosing overlay when switching between sequences, it took around 3 switches for the purple screen to appear.
Problem solved by replacing the 6600GT card with an 8800GTS, latest drivers for the 6600 made no difference except the latest drivers, the same for the 8800 caused problems in some other software until Quicktime was modified under preferences for VIDEO using GUI only.
All this can only be a guide, I think we all should list our hardware etc in our signature, I have found that extremely useful.
Regards Barry

[mattmatt]

I have had the exact same problem (referning to sample pic) - re-install didn't fix it. It effects final output too.

Did the problem get solved or did this post just get hi-jacked?

[Bluetongue]

I have had the exact same problem (referning to sample pic) - re-install didn't fix it. It effects final output too.

Did the problem get solved or did this post just get hi-jacked?

Which PIC Mat
Regards Barry

[Imagine Video]

I see what you mean guys this would be an even larger mine field and difficult to control in the long term. My own build was not without its problems, It is a pitty though as the CANOPUS list of compatible hardware is outdated.

Keep up the good work this is an excellent support resource, without this community I would have had a lot more of a learning curve!

Cath

Happy new year!!