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  • CAN WE HAVE A STICKY on hardware

    This is a mine field!! The CANOPUS website is as far behind as I would be in an olympic dash..............

    This could have a disclaimer to state it is forum members experience only!!

    But it would be nice to have a reference other than posters signatures!!

    would include:

    Motherboard used
    Graphics card used
    Processor type and speed
    Make or Ram used and how much
    Power supply used
    Monitors used

    Could this be done without it getting to messy??


    Cath
    Last edited by Imagine Video; 12-31-2007, 02:49 PM.
    Asus P5K64WS, Intel Core 2 Quad QX6850 Extreme CPU, Saphire HD 3850 512mb graphics, WDraptor160 OS, Highpoint Rocket raid 2310 4 x 500gig Seagate sata 2 se drives in raid 0, NXe and Edius 5.51 Imaginate 2.
    Procoder 3.06 and various Prodad add-ons

  • #2
    Cath:
    I'm sorry to see you are so upset. Can't imagine what you would expect from forum members other than their experience. Give it a chance. Most folks find it a very valuable asset.
    Fred D
    Win 7 Pro-64 bit, EDIUS Workgroup 8.5, Intel Ivy Bridge i5, ASUS P8Z77-V-LK, 8GB Kningston DDR3, Pioneer BDR-209UBK, EVGA NVIDEA GEForce GT630, Corsair TX750M 750w Power Supply, 4 WD Black HDD for 3.15TB, ACEDVIO, Spark HD, eSATA controller, ANTEC 300 case.

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    • #3
      Cath:
      I'm sorry to see you are so upset. Can't imagine what you would expect from forum members other than their experience. Give it a chance. Most folks find it a very valuable asset.

      You have mis understood my post.

      I am not upset at all I have a fully working system.

      I am suggesting we have a sticky for hardware list that is relevant Un-like the Canopus web site that seems to be a little behind in its recommendations for hardware to work with the current range of products it has for sale. NX e for example.

      It has been asked for before and it would be an excellent resource for NEW people wanting to build systems to work with Edius.

      It would have helped me!

      I asked a lot of questions here and got the answers I needed to build my own system. BUT I still had to take a chance or two on a few components that are available now.

      My request is to have a place for a list of componants OTHERS are using! I am not expecting anything more than that.

      I know some users have their system spec in a sig at the bottom of their posts, but to collate it all and have a list of componants would be so much easier for new or potential users of EDIUS.

      The disclaimer would be for GV so people know its only other users recommendations they are looking at.

      Cath
      Asus P5K64WS, Intel Core 2 Quad QX6850 Extreme CPU, Saphire HD 3850 512mb graphics, WDraptor160 OS, Highpoint Rocket raid 2310 4 x 500gig Seagate sata 2 se drives in raid 0, NXe and Edius 5.51 Imaginate 2.
      Procoder 3.06 and various Prodad add-ons

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Imagine Video View Post
        I am suggesting we have a sticky for hardware list that is relevant Un-like the Canopus web site that seems to be a little behind in its recommendations for hardware.
        Good recommendation. I would like to see this, too. Perhaps the listed components could be reviewed and updated each time there is a major version release of a GV product?
        Camera: Sony HVRZ1U
        Software: Edius 5.11, ProCoder 3.05.91, Imaginate 2, DVDit Pro HD
        System: Supermicro X7DA8, 2 Dual-Core Xeon (5060) 3.2GHz, 4GB RAM, (ST3750640AS) 750GB x 2 SATA
        7200RPM RAID 0, PNY NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT (512MB), Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP, WinXP(SP2), Edius NX w/ Bay and Expansion Kit

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        • #5
          Cath:
          Your second post is clear and explains your idea fully. It's a good suggestion and works so much better without insulting the current quality of this community.
          Fred D
          Win 7 Pro-64 bit, EDIUS Workgroup 8.5, Intel Ivy Bridge i5, ASUS P8Z77-V-LK, 8GB Kningston DDR3, Pioneer BDR-209UBK, EVGA NVIDEA GEForce GT630, Corsair TX750M 750w Power Supply, 4 WD Black HDD for 3.15TB, ACEDVIO, Spark HD, eSATA controller, ANTEC 300 case.

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          • #6
            So, how would you propose to go about doing this? Somebody must sit down and compile the 100's of components that go into the editing system. We will feed that person with our system's data.

            I think we have to be more rigid in defining what to go in to the final list - motherboards, I/O (whether SCSI, SATA, or IDE, RAID or non RAID), video card, what Canopus h/w is installed, power supply used, type of CPU (Pentium, Core 2, Xeons, AMD, etc), memory installed ... etc, etc.

            Let's have a consensus first - what is relevant to a video editing system? I would say - memory amount is not one of them. Motherboard is important - as some of them could not be used with Canopus NX h/w, because of resource conflicts? I/O is very important - because video editing is I/O bound, not CPU bound - unless you count real time special effects in.

            TS
            TingSern
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            Edius 9.4 Pro, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 10 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema, Blackmagic Pocket Cinema

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            • #7
              without insulting the current quality of this community

              How have you got this! even from my original post!!

              I would NOT insult the quality of this community Please re read my post in the context of the header!!!



              I would think it could be managed by way of a section here called hardware, people could just list there hardware in a field that would be headed with the relevent componants and make model used for that particular user.

              I think a definite destinction between the two groups pro and broadcast pro would be needed as we all dont need uncompresses capable media drive arrays.

              This is all just a suggestion to help new users, and to make it easier for people to see what is required to run edius smoothly.


              Cath
              Asus P5K64WS, Intel Core 2 Quad QX6850 Extreme CPU, Saphire HD 3850 512mb graphics, WDraptor160 OS, Highpoint Rocket raid 2310 4 x 500gig Seagate sata 2 se drives in raid 0, NXe and Edius 5.51 Imaginate 2.
              Procoder 3.06 and various Prodad add-ons

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              • #8
                Cath,

                Not so easy. For example, the "Hard Disk Too Slow" problem upon capture. I, for instance, will NEVER experience that problem. Because I don't capture. Just because my system is suitable for me does not imply it won't cause problems to the next person.

                Also, what makes you think the broadcast pro will demand uncompressed media? I think the folks who will use uncompressed 4:4:4 are those filming for the big screen only. Most of us here - including broadcast pro will definitely compress - as no bandwidth exists through the airwaves today that allows transmission of uncompressed video. Especially HD uncompressed.

                I like your idea. Especially to serve as a more up to date h/w list of EDIUS capable h/w. When I looked at the Canopus site - it really looks dated. However, the first paragraph example I quote should serve caution to the people whom might think the list represents "gospel truth".

                Cheers,
                TS
                TingSern
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                Edius 9.4 Pro, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 10 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema, Blackmagic Pocket Cinema

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                • #9
                  Cath, I think you misunderstood Fred. I took his post as meaning it was a good idea becuase it did not insult the community.

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                  • #10
                    Cath, I think it is a good idea to post HW outlines in signature lines. It has been the practice as far back as I can recall (2002) on this and the predecessor Canopus forums. Are you going to include yours in the future?

                    However I think that this can only be a guide to what is known to work with Edius/GV software and hardware. It may or may not necessarily be appropriate for a specific user as there are now so many different types of user, with different inputs, editing needs and outputs. I am sure that my setup, as a hobbyist here, will be anathema to most of those who use Edius to earn a living.
                    DVC laptop: W870CU i7; 17.3" 1920x1080; 2x 1TB 7200rpm SATA notebook drives; Edius 8.5WG; Windows 7.

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                    • #11
                      The unfortunate fact of the matter is with the constant revisions of BIOSes, motherboards themselves and not the mention the other components involved, it's virtually impossible to guarantee that what works for one user will 100% work for another, even if they are the same components, because no two components are 100% the same.

                      That's why we have turnkey systems. The price is a bit higher than you would pay by piecing together a system yourself, but the extra money is well worth the peace of mind to know that you have a system that's been tested and backed by GV support.

                      My general rule applies: You pay either way - in time or money.

                      Much like myself, tingsern has obviously "pre-paid" in a lot of time to earn wisdom, but if you haven't already "pre-paid" and you don't necessarily want to learn a lot about the fickleness of computer technology, I'd definitely consider the turnkey route.

                      Once I built my own PVR... that went through 2 and a half build generations. Then I got a TiVo. If I was to do it all over, I'd skip the building my own part entirely and go straight to TiVo.

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                      • #12
                        Brandon I could not agree with you more, my system was working perfectly until I added 2x22 inch Samsung monitors and then I started loosing overlay when switching between sequences, it took around 3 switches for the purple screen to appear.
                        Problem solved by replacing the 6600GT card with an 8800GTS, latest drivers for the 6600 made no difference except the latest drivers, the same for the 8800 caused problems in some other software until Quicktime was modified under preferences for VIDEO using GUI only.
                        All this can only be a guide, I think we all should list our hardware etc in our signature, I have found that extremely useful.
                        Regards Barry
                        Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
                        GB GA-X58A-UD3R MB, i7 99[email protected], 12G 1600mhz Mem, Samsung EVO-250G SSD, 3x2T RAID, GTX 970W OC, 2x24 inch LG Monitors
                        Canon XH-A1/ Canon HF-G30, GoPro Hero3 Black, Edit @1920 50p HQ preset

                        https://vimeo.com/user2157719/videos
                        Laptop ASUS G752VT-GC060T Win 10HP, Edius WG8.53 Samsung M2 SSD 256G+1Tb HD,

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                        • #13
                          I have had the exact same problem (referning to sample pic) - re-install didn't fix it. It effects final output too.

                          Did the problem get solved or did this post just get hi-jacked?
                          When I go out, I wear my EDIUS T-Shirt.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mattmatt View Post
                            I have had the exact same problem (referning to sample pic) - re-install didn't fix it. It effects final output too.

                            Did the problem get solved or did this post just get hi-jacked?
                            Which PIC Mat
                            Regards Barry
                            Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
                            GB GA-X58A-UD3R MB, i7 [email protected], 12G 1600mhz Mem, Samsung EVO-250G SSD, 3x2T RAID, GTX 970W OC, 2x24 inch LG Monitors
                            Canon XH-A1/ Canon HF-G30, GoPro Hero3 Black, Edit @1920 50p HQ preset

                            https://vimeo.com/user2157719/videos
                            Laptop ASUS G752VT-GC060T Win 10HP, Edius WG8.53 Samsung M2 SSD 256G+1Tb HD,

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                            • #15
                              I see what you mean guys this would be an even larger mine field and difficult to control in the long term. My own build was not without its problems, It is a pitty though as the CANOPUS list of compatible hardware is outdated.

                              Keep up the good work this is an excellent support resource, without this community I would have had a lot more of a learning curve!

                              Cath

                              Happy new year!!
                              Asus P5K64WS, Intel Core 2 Quad QX6850 Extreme CPU, Saphire HD 3850 512mb graphics, WDraptor160 OS, Highpoint Rocket raid 2310 4 x 500gig Seagate sata 2 se drives in raid 0, NXe and Edius 5.51 Imaginate 2.
                              Procoder 3.06 and various Prodad add-ons

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