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    Is there a motherboard that will accept to Core2Quad proccessors that is not a server motherboard? I want to use Core2Quads and not Xeons. I know some have built dual Quad systems here but I am wondering if they are Xeon or Core2 processors.

    Thanks,
    Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

    Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

  • #2
    Originally posted by Philip View Post
    Is there a motherboard that will accept to Core2Quad proccessors that is not a server motherboard? I want to use Core2Quads and not Xeons. I know some have built dual Quad systems here but I am wondering if they are Xeon or Core2 processors.

    Thanks,
    Gigabyte make one GA-X38T-DQ6, there are three in the series so you can chose from the three options. This is their latest offering and I have one on order.
    It will also take the new 45nm processors.
    There is also their the X35 series and I have no doubt other manufacturers have offerings, the best think is to visit their sites and look at their offering
    Regards Barry
    Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
    GB GA-X58A-UD3R MB, i7 [email protected], 12G 1600mhz Mem, Samsung EVO-250G SSD, 3x2T RAID, GTX 970W OC, 2x24 inch LG Monitors
    Canon XH-A1/ Canon HF-G30, GoPro Hero3 Black, Edit @1920 50p HQ preset

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    Laptop ASUS G752VT-GC060T Win 10HP, Edius WG8.53 Samsung M2 SSD 256G+1Tb HD,

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Philip View Post
      Is there a motherboard that will accept to Core2Quad proccessors that is not a server motherboard? I want to use Core2Quads and not Xeons. I know some have built dual Quad systems here but I am wondering if they are Xeon or Core2 processors.

      Thanks,
      Core 2 Duo line is a consumer line, there are plenty of mobos available for C2D processors :)

      C2D is Socket 775

      Xeons are server/workstation CPU's for Socket 771, the motherboards in this lines are much more expensive than C2D motherboards. Also the chipsets are very different between Server and Consumer motherboards.

      Also usually when people buy or build Xeon workstations, they usually get 2 processors (physical) because Server workstations usually have 2 physical processors. Core 2 Duo line only allows 1 physical processors with unlimited cores.
      I would get an Asus motherboard if I was building a Core 2 Duo (Q series Quad Core C2D). Check Jerry's signature, he has a very recent motherboard.

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      • #4
        I think he is asking if he can use 2 x Core2 CPU's and no, that's not possible.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by shueardm View Post
          I think he is asking if he can use 2 x Core2 CPU's and no, that's not possible.
          That is what I was hoping. I was looking to build early next year and thought why not add the ability if possible. I do want to use 2 x Core2 CPUs.
          Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

          Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Philip View Post
            That is what I was hoping. I was looking to build early next year and thought why not add the ability if possible. I do want to use 2 x Core2 CPUs.
            In that case, that is physically impossible. Xeon chips and Core 2 Duo chips use completely different sockets (771 vs 775).

            Also, there is no way to use 2 x Core 2 Duo chips because C2D does not support multiple physical processors. This is why the Xeon line is so expensive, it supports dual physical chips.

            You can however buy 1 Xeon chip with a dual CPU motherboard, and add a second CPU later....but I don't really recommend that.

            What do you plan to do? If it's mostly editing, then the new Core 2 Duo Quad (forgot the model name) is more than enough, imo. If I were building a PC right now only for EDIUS, I would grab a C2D Quad CPU and an Asus mobo with 4GB of RAM.

            I have a fast machine because I need it for After Effects work...and AE uses all 8 cores (each at 3.0Ghz)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post

              What do you plan to do? If it's mostly editing, then the new Core 2 Duo Quad (forgot the model name) is more than enough, imo. If I were building a PC right now only for EDIUS, I would grab a C2D Quad CPU and an Asus mobo with 4GB of RAM.

              I have a fast machine because I need it for After Effects work...and AE uses all 8 cores (each at 3.0Ghz)
              I'm pretty much planning on mostly editing with a small amount of AE. I know the dual Quad would be overkill but at somepoint these NLE's will utilize them all and I have a feeling it will be soon. We can always dream can't we. Right now I am planning a C2Q build but wanted to make sure the dually version wasn't possible.
              Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

              Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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              • #8
                The new 45nm C2Quad is plenty fast. Just a suggestion, if I were you I'd rather invest in storage and other stuff :)

                Hope this helps.

                By the way, if you go Xeons, you're looking at $1,200 per processor, motherboards are about $500, RAM (Still FB-DIMM with 45nm Xeons, I think) are very expensive as well.

                Also with server mobos, it doesn't have as many PCIe slots as regular consumer ones.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
                  The new 45nm C2Quad is plenty fast. Just a suggestion, if I were you I'd rather invest in storage and other stuff :)

                  Hope this helps.
                  That's where I'm heading....it never hurts to dream though. My other corp event business just built out a C2D E6600 and it just blows my AMD x2 4800 away in Edius. It can deal with HDV about as good as my AMD does HQ. Very impressive. I am planning to build a C2Q system that is a Small Form Factor (similar to the Shuttle) and use external storage via eSATA for data and video files. It should do me well but I always like to check the feasibility of dream machines before commiting to something.

                  BTW...I have invested in lots of storage already. Most of my work (events like weddings) need about 250-300gb storage in HQ codec. I have an external eSATA 500gb drive for working and a second eSATA for backup so that is 1TB of drives for each project. Currently I have 4 of these setups and figure I have enough for awhile and can now build out the updated system with the money people are paying for the HD edits.
                  Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

                  Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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                  • #10
                    The thunder K8WE dual proc mobo goes for about $350 and the Opteron 280 chips are less than $300 each. Makes one fast machine for Edius.
                    Ken,

                    Edius 5.12 2XOpteron 280s, K8WE, NX, SATA 1Tera, Radeon Extreme X850, 24" Dell LCD and some other 17" LCD, Pioneer BD-RW BDR-205(1.02),
                    Sony Cams; FX1, FX1000, FXR-7.
                    Owner - D&J Video Productions

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Philip View Post
                      Is there a motherboard that will accept to Core2Quad proccessors that is not a server motherboard? I want to use Core2Quads and not Xeons. I know some have built dual Quad systems here but I am wondering if they are Xeon or Core2 processors.

                      Thanks,
                      I have motherboard REV:1.0 of the Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 with the Intel Quad-Core [email protected] running rock-solid!

                      ...Angelo
                      Canopus/GV: DVStorm2 w/component-out board, ADVC300, Edius 4.61, ProCoder 3.05, Imaginate2
                      System: MSI B75A-G43 (v2.0), i7-3770K, 4GB, HD6850, Pyro1394 pci-e, 6 Disks 2.4TB non-raid, Win7-32bit, Dell 24" & 19" LCD

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by EasternSP View Post
                        The thunder K8WE dual proc mobo goes for about $350 and the Opteron 280 chips are less than $300 each. Makes one fast machine for Edius.
                        Opterons are old school though...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
                          Opterons are old school though...
                          But so are PC's aren't they Dave? LOL

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by shueardm View Post
                            But so are PC's aren't they Dave? LOL
                            Hehehe

                            Seriously though, any electronics device that you buy, it becomes obsolete once it's out of the store. Sad, but oh well :)

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                            • #15
                              As far as Opterons being old school, I don't think the MPEG render time is going to be to far behind the latest CPUs. For the cost difference, unless you are a business that needs those few extra minutes cut on a one hour render, you would be just as well to maybe stick with the old school.
                              Ken,

                              Edius 5.12 2XOpteron 280s, K8WE, NX, SATA 1Tera, Radeon Extreme X850, 24" Dell LCD and some other 17" LCD, Pioneer BD-RW BDR-205(1.02),
                              Sony Cams; FX1, FX1000, FXR-7.
                              Owner - D&J Video Productions

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