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  • #16
    Originally posted by MetalMike View Post
    I'm demoing the HVX-200 right now, I just got it in today. What are you impressions of it - would you purchase again? Is there something else you would get if you could go back?
    I would not hesitate to buy it again, although if I had the money, I would consider moving up to the HPX-500.

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    • #17
      My biggest concern right now is the longevity of P2 technology. Obviously everything is moving toward disk based / solid state storage - but will this proprietary technology become outmoded within a year or two - I'm not sure. :?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by MetalMike View Post
        My biggest concern right now is the longevity of P2 technology. Obviously everything is moving toward disk based / solid state storage - but will this proprietary technology become outmoded within a year or two - I'm not sure. :?
        Isn't the P2 card just a bunch of SD cards mashed into one PCMCIA device? It's propietry, but it's the oldest solid state cards available, so prices might drop much faster, or not..?

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        • #19
          I have the Lowly HVX200, and a HPX2000.
          Mule
          EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
          4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

          Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
          Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

          HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

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          • #20
            Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
            Isn't the P2 card just a bunch of SD cards mashed into one PCMCIA device? It's propietry, but it's the oldest solid state cards available, so prices might drop much faster, or not..?
            From Panasonic site
            Panasonic’s P2 card is based on ultra-reliable, solid-state memory, consisting of four SD cards, like those now used in digital still cameras, packaged in a rugged, die-cast frame that weighs only 0.099 lbs (45 grams). This convenient card has four times the capacity and four times the transfer speed of a single SD card. The P2 card is reusable and connects instantly with P2 decks, drives, laptops and major non-linear editing systems to eliminate the time-consuming task of digitizing. These PCMCIA-based cards can be easily connected to laptops using ExpressCard technology with simple, highly affordable third-party adapters.

            The P2 card is resistant to impact (up to 1,500G), vibration (up to 15G), shock, dust and enviro
            EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
            4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

            Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
            Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

            HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

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            • #21
              Originally posted by MetalMike View Post
              My biggest concern right now is the longevity of P2 technology. Obviously everything is moving toward disk based / solid state storage - but will this proprietary technology become outmoded within a year or two - I'm not sure. :?
              There are major networks that are converting or have converted to P2, among them Fox and the BBC. They would not be doing that if they didn't feel that P2 was not going to disappear tomorrow.
              Last edited by THoff; 12-08-2007, 11:14 PM.

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              • #22
                I believe!

                Lots of other P2 believers
                http://www.panasonic.com/business/provideo/p2/index.asp

                WRAL in Raleigh is also a big Edius user.


                Mule Ferguson
                EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
                4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

                Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
                Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

                HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

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                • #23
                  將影片新增至 [快速清單]將影片新增至 30[快速清單]

                  Thats the warranty 30Yrs..

                  Itchi Bon, Boy San
                  He Haw
                  EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
                  4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

                  Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
                  Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

                  HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

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                  • #24
                    What preset are you using with 720 30Pn?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by muleferg View Post
                      I received my 32g card yeasterday and noticed it has 35 min record time in 1080
                      or 85 min 720 24pn

                      Mule
                      Together with your "160GB P2 card" you'll have more than 500 min 720 24pn. That's what I was waiting for ;-)

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                      • #26
                        The Truth is. In the HPX2000 you can load 5 32gigers in the camera and shoot all day, 7 hrs at 720 24pn and never have to remove the cards. anybody got $8000.00 to loan a poor old country boy?

                        Mule
                        EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
                        4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

                        Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
                        Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

                        HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by valipro View Post
                          What preset are you using with 720 30Pn?
                          I shoot most of my material in 720/30PN using an HVX200, and edit using the native DVCProHD codec rather than converting to Canopus HQ.

                          There is a matching preset under Generic OHCI for 720/30PN. I can check the exact name/description when I get home if you need it.

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                          • #28
                            DVCProHD codec rather than converting to Canopus HQ.

                            Mule
                            EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
                            4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

                            Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
                            Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

                            HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

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                            • #29
                              P2 isn't going anywhere anytime soon. It has had massive adoption in the broadcast world.

                              The fastest and best way (imo) to offload p2 cards is simply to stick a card into a compatible pcmcia slot on a desktop or laptop. Keeps the camera free, and it's faster than other methods.

                              If you are transferring 720p/24pn footage, you are talking about 4-5x realtime transfers. 1080 and other non pn 720 modes, you are talking about 2x faster than realtime transfers.

                              Plus, with EDIUS you can edit off the card, or even better... begin editing your footage immediately off the card while the transfer to your local hdd location takes place in the background. I love that.

                              Tapeless workflow is great if you have an NLE that allows you to take full advantage of the workflow. EDIUS will do that. That is 98% of the reason why I bought EDIUS. I wanted something that would allow me to take full advantage of the P2 workflow. I grit my teeth and bear the things I don't like about EDIUS, b/c that was the most important feature for me. Realtime, was a close second in importance... EDIUS has begun to dissapoint me a bit since 4.5 and up on that for some reason... but that's another topic.

                              Tapeless rocks. I'm jealous of your 32 gig p2 cards. 1 16 and 2 8's for now....

                              Later,
                              Jason
                              HVX/P2/DVCPRO HD. EDIUS Broadcast 4.54

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                              • #30
                                I have two 16s and they're awesome. It's really easy to collect a terrabyte of data, though. I keep buying more WD myBooks to hold all this stuff, but someone has to come up with a better way.
                                Edius works with P2 so smoothly compared to the other NLEs!

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