Incomplete sequence imported when there is an In/Out marker

[Steady Hand]

I think I found a bug in EDIUS 8.53: It is the first time that I used "import sequence" to import a sequence from another project. I used it because the current project would not fill a BD25, so I decided to make one BD from two projects...
When adding the sequences to the "DVD Burner", I noticed that one sequence that I was editing heavily the last few days was very short, too short (It was displayed like 17s when it was more like 14 minutes)
The other sequences imported from the project seemed OK (it's a mess to check that, BTW).
When I looked what that particular sequence has what the others don't, I discovered that I had set In/Out markers. I cannot prove it, but it seems as if EDIUS just imported the part between In/Out markers (I cannot prove it, because I deleted those in the mean time).
What I did to recover the problem:
1) Remove the markers in the original sequence: Did not help (there were no In/Out markers in the imported sequence)
2) Import the same sequences again under a different name (after having fixed the In/out markers): Did not help
3) Restart without the imported sequence, and import the sequences again: Now the sequence in question looks OK!

Questions: Is there a way to update imported sequences (without loosing the work done else where)?
Is there an easy way to check that all imported sequences have the same length as in the original project?
Are imported sequences copies of the original sequences, or are they "references"? In case of the latter, can I update the imported view of such a reference?

[antonsvideo]

I assume you mean EDIUS 7.53?

are you talking about importing EDIUS sequence from another project to the current project?

or are you talking about adding sequences to the disk burner in the movie tab?

[David Clarke]

Disc burner always uses the section between the in and out point. So the question is was all the sequence there, but it only made the bit between the in and out in the disc burner, or did it really only import the bit between the in and out.

The first is as I would expect. The second would be odd.

[Steady Hand]

Clarification

I assume you mean EDIUS 7.53?

are you talking about importing EDIUS sequence from another project to the current project?

or are you talking about adding sequences to the disk burner in the movie tab?

(Sorry for the lack of sleep I had)
Yes, EDIUS 7.53, of course. If I wrote "Importing sequences" it was done at the project level, because in DVD Burner you can only add (rendered) files, not sequences from other projects (AFAIK).

[Steady Hand]

Have to check...

Disc burner always uses the section between the in and out point. So the question is was all the sequence there, but it only made the bit between the in and out in the disc burner, or did it really only import the bit between the in and out.

The first is as I would expect. The second would be odd.

If DVD burner will only write the section between In and Out marker of a sequence to disk without warning, that would be quite a mis-feature as you cannot see the markers from the DVD Burner tool. (Many times I have left In and Out markers around after some partial test-exports to files)

I'm not sure about the In and Out markers after importing the sequences; I'll have to re-check (cannot do that now) and report. Thanks for the hint!

[David Clarke]

I always do two things:

1. Press "X" before running burn to disc. This removes any in and out points.
2. Check the duration of the clip in the burn to disc window.

The assumption is that if you have an in and out set you want to just export that part. It used to be the same for print to file until it changed to exporting the whole timeline unless you ticked the "in to out box".

[Steady Hand]

On burning only whole sequences

I always do two things:

1. Press "X" before running burn to disc. This removes any in and out points.
2. Check the duration of the clip in the burn to disc window.

The assumption is that if you have an in and out set you want to just export that part. It used to be the same for print to file until it changed to exporting the whole timeline unless you ticked the "in to out box".

Assuming that X will only remove In/Out markers from the current sequence, it's quite some task if you have many sequences (as I usually have).
Side-note: In German translation there is no difference in the texts for removing the material between In and Out and just removing the markers, so I only use any of these only if I must (to avoid mistakes I could realize too late to undo...).

[David Clarke]

True. I generally only have one or two timelines in a DVD so it is not a problem.

[antonsvideo]

note:

I always mark in and out on any sequence that will be included in the disk burner, because this is an easy way to add padding, because a DVD player can only play to the start of the last GOP which may stop playback abruptly, so I always set out point 1 sec after the end of timeline

you can do the same without in and out by adding a black matte

[Steady Hand]

Problem solved

Disc burner always uses the section between the in and out point. (...)

I verified: That was the problem (I had In and Out markers in the sequence).

Still I think that DVD Burner should offer the option to use the whole sequence instead of just the In-Out section per default. For file export the whole sequence is the default, and In/Out is an option.

[antonsvideo]

I verified: That was the problem (I had In and Out markers in the sequence).

Still I think that DVD Burner should offer the option to use the whole sequence instead of just the In-Out section per default. For file export the whole sequence is the default, and In/Out is an option.

good point, because when you print to file, you can choose to export between in and out or not