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  • HQX avi vs HQ avi

    so I understand that if I definately plan on re-editing something or continuing to work on something that Canopus Avi Lossless is best, as it's file types huge because it does not lose quality with each render...

    However for things I'm archiving or filing away, that I "may" reedit or make a clip reel from later... or have been saving "just in case" - when I first started using Edius years ago I believe I was just saving them as HQ avi standard

    But thinking about it and looking at all the options,

    Grass Valley HQX Avi
    Fine
    Standard
    Offline
    Fine Alpha
    Standard Alpha
    Offline Alpha
    Superfine
    Superfine Alpha

    Grass Valley HQ Avi
    Fine
    Standard
    Offline
    Fine Alpha
    Standard Alpha
    Offline Alpha

    I'm wondering the purpose of each.. I think Anton previously said that the Offline setting wasn't even worth using as it was very bad
    The names are confusing as I would think offline would be the best quality as it was too large for online use.. It's pretty confusing

    Can anyone clarify here?
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  • #2
    Use Fine (HQX = 10 bit color depth) or Superfine (HQ = 8 bit color depth only) for best quality settings.
    If you have alpha parts in your project and you want archive that, use Fine/Superfine with alpha.
    Canopus Lossless is limited to 8bit color depth.
    You should better choose V210 AVI to archive 10 bit workflow.

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    • #3
      Sorry what is v210?
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      • #4
        V210 is an uncompressed 10bit codec.

        Andreas
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        • #5
          So which of the settings does that fall under?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by tryingtolearn View Post
            So which of the settings does that fall under?
            I just mentioned it because you pointed out that you was using Canopus Lossless codec.
            V210 is just the alternative if you want to stay at 10 bit fully lossless.

            Andreas
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            • #7
              Just to be clear use superfine for HQX and fine for HQ.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Andreas_Gumm View Post
                I just mentioned it because you pointed out that you was using Canopus Lossless codec.
                V210 is just the alternative if you want to stay at 10 bit fully lossless.

                Andreas
                any idea why V210 is not allowed to be set as render codec in a 10bit project?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                  any idea why V210 is not allowed to be set as render codec in a 10bit project?
                  Isn't that for export only, and lossless for render ?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SoundFreak_HD View Post
                    Isn't that for export only, and lossless for render ?
                    what I am saying is that you can't set V210 for render as if the codec is not 10bit compatible, try it, it won't let you
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                    • #11
                      If you plan on re editing later just keep the originals. They will be the maximum quality you can get. If you just keep the edit you will only be able to cut down as you will not have anything you did not use. If your originals are AVCHD or other compressed camera files all of them may be smaller than a HQ/HQX file of the finished edit !!!
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                      • #12
                        In relation to Andreas comment
                        Should you always avoid the
                        "Online (Standard)" setting that is default?

                        NakedEye says to use superfine for HAX and Fine for HQ
                        so I should avoid Standard at all cost?

                        Keep Lossless AVI If I want to re-edit originals.. they're just so MASSIVE

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                        • #13
                          Standard HQ is fine for your purpose
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                          • #14
                            Sorry to bump an old thread, but what is the dif between HQ and HQx?
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                            • #15
                              Also sorry.. but if I just select "HQ" without a preset, it then gives me the options for
                              Grass Valley HQ Codec
                              Online Superfine (greyed out)
                              Online Fine
                              Online Standard
                              Offline
                              and
                              Custom

                              it also has a quality scale of 4-19 on the right and a max - min of up to 40???
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