Advise on nVidia Quadro 3400 series

[tingsern]

Hi Chabi,

What do you mean by 'you used the same ""install"' when you switched motherboard? If I understand you, you just swap the motherboard using the same device drivers for the old motherboard. You didn't install Windows again from the installation disk. If you have done that, I am EXTREMELY surprised that Windows can even boot up. The new motherboard's h/w resources are MOST unlikely to be the same as the older one. No wonder you got into this problem. You have to install a new Windows image on a new motherboard each time (unless the new motherboard is identical to the old one).

And you will have to be prepared to convince the gods of Microsoft that you are installing the Windows on a new replacement machine and get them to reset the activation settings on their server.

I don't think the problem now lies with your power supply. It is your Windows settings. I am sorry - but, you will have to spend time to install a new copy of Windows and all your programs again on the new motherboard.

[mohchabi]

PJSSSS,

Ah ... thanks for the education. That makes perfect sense to me. Once I did see the service engineer pull out one side of my power supply when he had to diagnose some minor problems. So - it is 800 watts power then.

Chabi,

Have you tested your Quadro card on another machine? Maybe your card is faulty?

Or your wire connecting the power supply unit to the Quadro card might be loose?

TS

Hello!
I have tested the quadro card on a Dell PC and, infortunately for me, it works very well.
May be I have to change my power supply, or I should reinstall WinXp Pro and all the softs, because... I used the same "install" when I have changed my motherboard (from X7DA8 to X7DAE).
I bought my Quadro card online and I sent it back for an exchange with a PNY Quadro FX 1500, which Does not need one PCI express power connector.

Chabi

[shueardm]

I have the 645W version of that Supermicro case (agree with Pat's praise) and I have 9 hard drives running, the power supply does it's job just great and also I have a Quadro FX 3450- so the point is- you don't need an 800W, just a stable 600W+. I'd say your power supply just isn't as good as the Supermicro ones.

[tingsern]

PJSSSS,

Ah ... thanks for the education. That makes perfect sense to me. Once I did see the service engineer pull out one side of my power supply when he had to diagnose some minor problems. So - it is 800 watts power then.

Chabi,

Have you tested your Quadro card on another machine? Maybe your card is faulty?

Or your wire connecting the power supply unit to the Quadro card might be loose?

TS

[pjsssss]

I have the same case. It is a marvel of manufactoring. As I understand it, you only draw 800 watts. The second PS is there as a backup in case something happens to the first.

[tingsern]

Power supply? I don't really know - because it is Supermicro's own redundant power supply. I have to plug in 2 mains power cable into the power supply.

I have 8 SCSI (146GB) 10,000 rpm hard-disks connected to 2 SCSI channels to Adaptec RAID controller card + 3 SATA hard-disks (750GB) connected to motherboard SATA controller inside the box.

See this URL - http://www.supermicro.com/products/c...745S2-R800.cfm

According to the specs, the power supply is 800 watts each (meaning a total of 1600 watts).

[mohchabi]

Hi Chabi,

Picked up my Quadro 3500 yesterday.

Good news for me and (bad news) for you. I uninstalled my Matrox device drivers from my Windows XP, unplug the card from my Supermicro motherboard (X7DA8), plug in my Leadtek Quadro 3500 card, connect the auxiliary power to the card, and power up. NO Problems was detected at all. It came up nicely in both my monitors displaying the BIOS info.

Confirmed that there is nothing wrong with the Supermicro motherboard to support the nVidia Quadro 3500 card.

Hello,
Thank you for your help. I just want to know what kind of power supply do you use. Mine is a "Seasonic S12-650 Watts Energy Plus Series".
I have five (05) hard disks SATA, and perhaps it's not enough.
Chabi

[tingsern]

Hello,
I have connected the auxiliary power cable to the graphic card (a new Seasonic S12-650 Energy Plus Series 80-Plus Power supply). A colleague of mine told me that it could be an IRQ's conflict with other slots and I am going to disable all the Ports I don't need (G Lan, Parallel Printer Port, Come1, Com2 serial ports). Also, I am going to take my Canopus cards off(NX+Expansion kit) and try to start my computer with my PNY FX 3500 graphic card only.
I am waiting Tingsern's experience to see what to do.
Thanks to all of you for your help.

Chabi

Hi Chabi,

Picked up my Quadro 3500 yesterday.

Good news for me and (bad news) for you. I uninstalled my Matrox device drivers from my Windows XP, unplug the card from my Supermicro motherboard (X7DA8), plug in my Leadtek Quadro 3500 card, connect the auxiliary power to the card, and power up. NO Problems was detected at all. It came up nicely in both my monitors displaying the BIOS info.

Confirmed that there is nothing wrong with the Supermicro motherboard to support the nVidia Quadro 3500 card.

[GrassValley_KH]

Just on the topic of IRQ conflicts: they are indeed a rarity - usually it's a misconfiguration of the APIC settings in the BIOS, which in turn leads to Windows being installed differently. The bad news there is that if that's the case, it usually means a Windows reinstall, since upon changing the APIC setting, Windows won't "find" anything it's looking for during bootup.

Also, be sure not to confuse APIC with ACPI (power management). Aren't acronyms fun?

[tingsern]

Right - please wait while the supplier gets my Quadro 3500. He told me 1 - 2 weeks ... right now, it is about 1 week already.

Wait a minute !!! Mohchabi, you said you have an existing video card that works with your Windows, right? That implies you must have already installed that card's device driver into your Windows. Did you UNINSTALL that device driver, boot up Windows again and configure it for pure VGA mode first? VGA is the lowest common denominator. The card BIOS supports the VGA - no device driver. Then you remove that existing video card, plug in the Quadro 3500, power up again - try it and see if it works.

UNLESS of course, if there is a IRQ conflict - VERY Rare these days - you will hear 3 sharp beeps from the BIOS and that's it upon booting up. If you can see the normal BIOS display upon booting up, it means the card is okay. If Windows refuses to start, then I suspect it will the "old" video driver that is still in command.

Another possibility is a faulty PNY Quadro 3500 card? Can you take that card to your supplier and test it out on a machine that is working? That wil rule out this possibility.

[mohchabi]

Hello,
I have connected the auxiliary power cable to the graphic card (a new Seasonic S12-650 Energy Plus Series 80-Plus Power supply). A colleague of mine told me that it could be an IRQ's conflict with other slots and I am going to disable all the Ports I don't need (G Lan, Parallel Printer Port, Come1, Com2 serial ports). Also, I am going to take my Canopus cards off(NX+Expansion kit) and try to start my computer with my PNY FX 3500 graphic card only.
I am waiting Tingsern's experience to see what to do.
Thanks to all of you for your help.

Chabi

[shueardm]

That was my thought, a power supply problem or perhaps he is using the wrong driver.

[tingsern]

Hello,
I have 2 Supermicro motherboards (X7DA8 and X7DAE) and I have problems with both, using a PNY Quadro FX 3500 (or an EAX800XT) graphic cards. My computer does not want to start and I have just a black screen. When I use an old and basic graphic card (Asus NX6600GT), which has not a PCIexpress power connector everything is ok. Are my Supermicro cards are incompatible with graphic cards with power connector?
I had a X6DA8-G2 Supermicro card and I had no problem with my Asus EAX800XT (with power connector).
I work with Edius 4.54, NX for HDV (PCI-X 64bits) with Expension kit.

Please help!
Thanks
Chabi

I have exactly that Supermicro motherboard (X7DA8). I am currently waiting for my Leadtek Quadro FX 3500 to come in from supplier. I hope not to experience your problem - if mine works fine, then the problem of yours could lie somewhere else. Did you connect the auxiliary power cable to your FX 3500? I suspect - either you didn't connect it or there is something faulty with the power coming over the cable into the board.

[STORMDAVE]

Hi,

I am using Matrox Millennium G650 right now. It is a 2D card only. No 3D. I am thinking of getting a Leadtek Quadro 3400 3D card. I have pending applications that require 3D card usage - although I don't use 3D per sec. In particular, Vitascene (proDAD) - which works in EDIUS.

Question - does EDIUS 4.54 have any problems with a Quadro 3400 chipset?

I have a lowly ATI X1900 and it worked fine with Vitascene :)

If you don't require hardcore 3d application support (such as 3d Max etc) then I don't see why you'd need a Quadro. Better look at the nVidia 8800GTS or something in that line...plus it will save you lots of money for other stuff :)

[mohchabi]

FX Quadro 3500

Hello,
I have 2 Supermicro motherboards (X7DA8 and X7DAE) and I have problems with both, using a PNY Quadro FX 3500 (or an EAX800XT) graphic cards. My computer does not want to start and I have just a black screen. When I use an old and basic graphic card (Asus NX6600GT), which has not a PCIexpress power connector everything is ok. Are my Supermicro cards are incompatible with graphic cards with power connector?
I had a X6DA8-G2 Supermicro card and I had no problem with my Asus EAX800XT (with power connector).
I work with Edius 4.54, NX for HDV (PCI-X 64bits) with Expension kit.

Please help!
Thanks
Chabi