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  • Edius 7.5 will import mov with DNxHD - Edius 8.2 won't?

    Hey folks,

    need your quick help again. A customer sent me a video file to be implemented in a production. The file is a mov and causes problems (as mov files seem to do regularly...): When trying to import into Edius 8.2 WG, it would not allow me to, but instead prompt this error message: "Import failed. Data is incorrect. (0x8007000d)"

    On another system however, Edius 7.5 would import the file and even play it with correct audio, but only showing a huge chess board (= pattern of black and white rectangles). From the property window, Edius 7.5 told me that in this mov wrapper it is a DNxHD709 codec encoded with Adobe AE CC at 30fps progressive.

    The QuicktimePlayer on my system was not able to play it back on a first try, but did on a second try. VLC player was also able to play it back immediately.

    As a workaround, using Handbrake I tried to re-encode the clip into an mp4, which did not deliver a result that could be imported into Edius.

    Questions are:
    1. While my system in generally able to play the clip on VLC player and deal with it in Handbrake, why would Edius 8.2WG not? Do I miss something, e.g. some codec pack I should have installed or updated?
    2. Whereas Edius 7.5 would be able to import the clip, play its sound and at least let me have a look into the properties (to see the codec information), why would Edius 8.2 not be able to do the same?
    3. Is there a solution?

    4. And, as a side question, do you happen to know a good and current tool to analyze codec information of a video clip, if Edius would refuse the import?

    Thanks so much in advance!
    Last edited by Captain; 05-13-2016, 01:16 PM.
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  • #2
    Okay, I partly resolved the problem:

    Obviously, Edius is not capable of importing this 30fps file into a 50i timeline. When I start a 30fps project, Edius imports and plays the file correctly.

    However, besides the fact that it would not look smooth to play 30fps in a 50i timeline, question is, why Edius would still refuse import and prompt a mystic error message instead of importing it and give a understandable warning -- or simply import and let the user decide if it looks good. Or is this a buggy combination of DNxHD and inconsistent framerate?

    Still I would like to read your judgement on this situation, so that I might learn how to deal with those issues in the future.
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    • #3
      Can you provide a small copy of the file?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by GrassValley_PS View Post
        Can you provide a small copy of the file?
        Unfortunately, it is 300MB. And as soon as I touch it to make it shorter or smaller it would mean to re-encode and therefore change the original problematic delivery format, right?

        I might upload it to a platform like WeTransfer and send you the link in a PM. Would that be alright?
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        • #5
          that would be good
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          • #6
            Mediainfo can reveal a lot more information about a file than you can see in Edius, Quicktime, VLC, etc. It is a free download, and may help you identify what is wrong with the file.

            MediaInfo is a convenient unified display of the most relevant technical and tag data for video and audio files
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            • #7
              I sent you a PM. The file plays perfectly here in a 1920x1080i preset with no problem in either video or audio.
              The frame rate shows 30 in EDIUS but plays OK with that or if I change it to 25.
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