Problem importing files from sony dcr-dvd908

[rems007]

Hello,

I'm a new Edius user, finishing my 4.52 trial version soon and I have a very strange problem:

I started editing files from a sony DCR-DVD803E and was enjoying it a lot, everything was working fine and the results were perfect (as perfect as it can be with that kind of video camera). I was already thinking I will move to Edius, leaving Premiere & Vegas behind but when I started to import files from my new sony DCR-DVD908E, some weird things happened:
First, the thumbnails of the clips in the timeline appeared green. When I play the clips, it works (almost) fine but as soon as I stop, the screen gets green. After playing with the settings, I found that checking "don't use pts" in plugin setting was solving the problem.
But the other problem I found is even stranger: the imported clips are actually shorter than the original (from 15 to 20%)!! If i play them in the timeline, the end will be missing, but if I stop in the middle, it will jump few frames forward.

When I play the files in various players or when I import them in Premiere & Vegas, they're the right length but somehow not in Edius. The only way I found is to convert them, but it's not a solution...

I compare the files from the DCR-DVD803E and the DCR-DVD908E with Gspot v2.70 and they're exactly the same (only the video_qf and the video_bitrate are different, see attachment). If I compare the properties of the clips in Edius, the only difference is the video bit rate (Edius sees the files from the DCR-DVD908E as CBR??)

I have only fews days left on the trial and without a solution I'm afraid I will have to go back to Premiere...

Any suggestions??

[GrassValley_BH]

Try enabling the "Don't use PTS" option in the Plug-in Settings, MPEG Importer.

[rems007]

I tried, it does solve the problem of the green screen but not the clip length.

[rems007]

If someone is interested to try the clips, I uploaded them:

DCR-DVD908E (the one with problem)

http://depositfiles.com/files/2441510

http://rapidshare.com/files/71193790/DCR-DVD908E.mpg.html

DCR-DVD803E (the one that works)

http://depositfiles.com/files/2441252

http://rapidshare.com/files/71193789/DCR-DVD803E.mpg.html

[lordxemperor]

have you finalize disk before you ripp it?

[rems007]

No, I haven't try to finalize the disc before ripping it because I didn't need it with the DCR-DVD803E.
I'll try it today...

[rems007]

I tried to finalize the disc before ripping it, same problem...

[rems007]

My trial version is finished, so I'll go back to Premiere. Thanks for the ones who tried.
I do have a friend working with Edius so if anyone find something...

[antonsvideo]

sorry, but Edius is not a home video DVD camera editing software

DVD of any kind is not really designed to be edited

DVD file format is too compressed to be suitable for proper editing

shops that sell DVD cameras should warn buyers that it is not a camera suitable for editing the footage

see if you can trade it in for a MiniDV camera, it produces 3 x higher quality and it is perfect for editing without losing quality

[Ron Evans]

IF you want to edit from DVD camcorders then Womble is a better solution than the more pro NLE's. It will only re-render those sections that are changed. If you want to do fancy effects that change all the video, even of course colour correct, then moving to a DV or HDV tape based system is far better as Anton has suggested. Having said that my daughter is very happy with her DVD cam and likes the convenience of just putting the disc in the player and watching!!! Even use Nero to make a full sized disc copy. I have used Womble a few times to make a compilation for her but I think in general making a copy and then editing "in camera" has the advantage of maintaining the menuing and time/date/info displays etc of the original video.

Ron Evans

[rems007]

Please Anton read the thread before posting!!
If you want to tell the world that MiniDV camera are better than DVD camera I have nothing against it but it's not the place for it!!
I've been in many forums about editing DVD files and I'm really tired of those persons not answering the question at all, just saying "change your camera, buy MiniDV". THIS IS NOT THE SUBJECT !!!!!
The question is:
Why files from DCR-DVD908E are shorter than the original when imported to Edius (and in Edius only, they're fine in Premiere, Vegas) but the ones from DCR-DVD803E worked perfectly?
Thanks for any constructive answers...

[antonsvideo]

I was unable to download your file for testing, it said something like:

Such file does not exist or it has been removed for infringement of copyrights

[GrassValley_KH]

I have passed the sample clips onto engineering - they are looking into it.

[rems007]

The rapidshare links are still working but not the depositfiles. I uploaded them again:

DCR-DVD803 http://depositfiles.com/files/2678746

DCR-DVD908 http://depositfiles.com/files/2678965

[GrassValley_KH]

I got a note back from Japan - while they look at this, they've suggested some things:

1. If you use DISCcapture to import the footage, go into the settings and check "Re-construct files when capturing DVD Video"

2. You've already chosen the "Don't use PTS" option - also check the "Get timecode from GOP header" option in the "MPEG Importer" dialog box of "Plug-in Settings"