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  • E8.1WG and Win 10 64pro

    Hello,

    I have the following phenomenon:

    If I work in Edius 8.0 or 8.1 in the dual view mode and change to the trim mode (F6) and back again (F5) occurs a relative slow screen layout of the buttons below the preview window. In the simple view mode that happens very quickly. This phenomenon, however, occurs only under Windows 10.
    Under Win 7 all is well. All drivers are up to date.
    Can anyone confirm this phenomenon?

    Sorry for my bad English!

    wihe

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  • #2
    This is a known issue.
    Jerry
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    • #3
      Do you really use Trim Mode?
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      • #4
        Why not?

        wihe
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        • #5
          I personally think Trim Mode is obsolete. It is a leftover from waaay back. You can do all of your trimming directly on the timeline without having to get into any different mode.

          Not saying it is wrong. I am always interested in how people that use it.
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          • #6
            Hi wihe:

            Coming from Premiere pro years ago and using Edius after that time I have used the trim-mode one, two or three times in Premiere (and didnt use it after this tests).
            With Edius I tried to find out if there would be some benefit working with trim-mode - I didnt find a compelling one for myself.
            I agree therefore with GV_PS that one could use the trim-mode; but to use a workflow without trim-mode in Edius is at least equal comformable.
            Saying this I would prefer a global option to deactivate the trim-mode (so that a wrong keystroke doesnt switch Edius into the trim-mode).
            It's really nothing but a question of habit.
            Regards kurt
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            • #7
              Originally posted by kpot View Post
              ...Saying this I would prefer an global option to deactivate the trim-mode (so that a wrong keystroke doesnt switch Edius into the trim-mode).
              It's really nothing but a question of habit.
              Regards kurt
              That has been much requested. We would like at the very least to take away the keyboard shortcut of double clicking on a cut point which accidently puts you in Trim Mode. This is an EXTREMELY common mistake.
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              • #8
                Thank you for all of these tips.

                Regards
                wihe
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GrassValley_PS View Post
                  That has been much requested. We would like at the very least to take away the keyboard shortcut of double clicking on a cut point which accidently puts you in Trim Mode. This is an EXTREMELY common mistake.
                  Hi:
                  Full agree, this would be fine and (for me) sufficient.
                  Regards kurt
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GrassValley_PS View Post
                    That has been much requested. We would like at the very least to take away the keyboard shortcut of double clicking on a cut point which accidently puts you in Trim Mode. This is an EXTREMELY common mistake.
                    Ditto, Ditto
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                    • #11
                      @Jerry

                      Who is causing this issue, Windows 10 or Edius?

                      Thank You
                      wihe
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                      • #12
                        6 months for a reply? BTW, the double click on the end of a clip has been fuxed.
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                        • #13
                          About using Trimmode:

                          I use Trimmode often to do the first, initial trim. Clips stay in the Bin at that point. At the same time I can view the clips when I trim them and use the Bin as a sort of storyboard to sort out the clips. At this point I get the creative ideas how to order the clips. After this all the clips can go to the Timeline.

                          The Bin is organised by making subfolders and after that first trim the clip goes back to the Bin into the right subfolder (storyboard per subfolder). Usually the folders become separate sequences on the Timeline. I use a sort of master sequence that holds all separate sequences.

                          The Timeline is used for final trimming (most of the time not needed), colorcorrection, music, etc.
                          Every project uses a template of subfolders for the Bin, but each project usually has some extra, different subfolders
                          Sounds maybe a bit complicated, but works fine for me. I think each of us has his/her way of staying organised.

                          I tried skipping the first trim with the viewing the clips and my way of making a storyboard, but I did not like it. Everything worked fine (shortcuts, etc.), but I kept moving clips around on the timeline and lost the big picture; the overview. It did not feel very comfortable.

                          Tips for a better or faster way of working are always welcome.

                          Chris
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                          • #14
                            If you are only trimming the clips in your bin, you don't need to use the trim mode. Just load the clip into the preview/source player, mark the ins and outs, and repeat for the next clip.

                            Trim mode is designed for timeline trimming, to allow you to trim 2 adjacent clips and visually see what the trim is doing to them at the same time or to do slip and slide trimming.
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