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    Edius 8.1 on Windows 10 and Quick Sync problem...

    Hello all, newbie here.

    Recently I upgraded(?) Windows 7 Home Premium to Windows 10 Home edition. The install went smoothly enough and took around a couple of hours...

    Edius 8.1 works best for me on my system (ASRock Extreme6, i7 4790K, 1-SyncMaster E2420 monitor) with Quick Sync working. In order to get it working in Windows 7, I simply went into "Screen resolution" on my desktop, and went through the steps to engage a fake "Extended VGA monitor", as I only have one monitor.

    The problem with Windows 10 Home edition, at least as of this writing, is that it appears "Screen resolution" display settings (in either the Control Panel or from the Desktop) is broken, or I'm doing something wrong. So, at this point anyway, I can no longer get fake "Extended VGA monitor" Quick Sync to work in Edius 8.1.

    I guess, the only solution for some of us current single monitor users is to buy a second monitor (I assume this would work), which in my case would not be an option.

    So, I've had to go back to Windows 7 for now.

    It would be great if Grass Valley could get Quick Sync to work without any special monitor settings; I believe it does work this way in some software out there. It sure would be helpful to many users in a similar situation as mine.

    BTW, I have two computers (the other is an Intel DZ77GA-70K with i7 3770) and both have the same problem.

    What experiences are you all having with Quick Sync and Windows 10? Thanks!
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    If your monitor has more than one socket on the back you could just plug a second cable into that
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    • #3
      If I do connect to my monitor (Samsung SyncMaster E2420) with 2 cables then I get into all sorts of problems with the limitations of my Intel integrated gpu. In Edius 8.1WG it now flashes that I don't have enough memory for NewBlue Titler Pro 3, which I need. In Vegas Pro 12 it simply crashes...

      This may (or may not) have to do with the fact that my monitor only has one DVI-D port and one VGA RGB (analog) port. My graphics card EVGA 970 can connect to the VGA port through adapters, but the onboard Intel 4600 must connect to the digital port (at least on my Intel DZ77GA-70K it does).

      In any event, so far the only way my systems work with Quick Sync is with the "fake extended monitor" trick. And, Windows 10 Home simply does not allow it at the time.

      Hope that changes soon...

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      • #4
        I'm running the same motherboard as you (Asrock Extreme 6) and I don't have a single issue with QS in Windows 10. I am running two monitors. One is connected with the DVI and my Intel is connected to the second monitor by way of HDMI.
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        • #5
          Well there's the rub. You are using two monitors, and I'm connected to one monitor thru two connections; one is digital and the other is analog (if that that might create a problem).

          Really, the point of this thread is to find others who have been using a single monitor connection with Windows 10 Home and have successfully been able to have Quick Sync work in Edius 8.1. This is possible in Windows 7 Home Premium as I am doing it now.

          My dismay was when I upgraded to Windows 10 Home and found that the method to trick a fake second monitor still exists, but will fail to activate, and even to try one must go thru the Control Panel as the option is removed from the desktop "Screen resolution" avenue.

          I hope they (MS) fix this soon as some really do use only one monitor for editing as strange as that may seem.

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          • #6
            I'm use Windows 7 64bit with one monitor but I don't go into screen resolution to fake monitors.

            1. Connect the motherboard VGA connector into your monitor
            2. Connect the Graphics card DVI port to your monitor
            3. In the BIOS set Primary GPU to AUTO and set the multi-GPU to enabled. Its activates both the iGPU an dthe Graphics card for multi-monitor support.

            Then boot. I get a blank screen after booting as it selects the VGA cable. From your monitor select the DVI input and you should see your login screen.
            Last edited by Raja; 11-15-2015, 12:03 AM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Raja View Post
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              Then boot. I get a blank screen after booting as it selects the VGA cable. From your monitor select the DVD-I input an dyou should see your login screen.
              I use 2 monitors one VGA that is shared with KVM with my other computer and the other only on the editor. I only use the onboard GPU so both VGA and DVi are used from the motherboard and find that it is best to wait until after the POST screen to switch on the DVI input monitor as the motherboard will want to use the VGA for boot. If I switch on both monitors it will hang at POST and have to restart to move past this point. On one monitor it works this way too. Let it boot on the VGA. But Quicksync does work with just one monitor as that is how I set it up before sharing the VGA with the other computer.

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              • #8
                Yes, it appears there are many methods which will give us the ability to use Quick Sync in Windows 7.

                The problem I found however, when upgrading to Windows 10 is that MS has "currently" blocked or not enabled a successful way to "fake" a second extended VGA monitor in that OS. You can go through the same procedure as in Windows 7, but it simply will not accept the setting (as those who try will see).

                Using a real second monitor is currently not an option for me. And, simply connecting to my VGA and DVI-D ports on my single monitor results in HDCP issues and IGP issues.

                So, for me, and others out there somewhere (I assume), I will have to stay with Windows 7 and hope this issue gets the attention it needs...

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                • #9
                  You could make up a dummy plug to put in the on-board socket, just replace the DVI to VGA plug with a VGA male to female coupler and follow the instructions on this website
                  The 30 Second Dummy Plug
                  http://www.overclock.net/t/384733/the-30-second-dummy-plug
                  Here is how to make up a dummy plug for your card in about 30 seconds. All you need are three 68 ohm resistors from RadioShack. They come in packs of 5 for a buck. You will need the DVI-VGA adapter that ships with every GFX card, the resistors and a clipper. You could use scissors or a nail...
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                  • #10
                    The other possibility is that buy plugging in the second screen the Intel card has become the primary and not the NVidia. This means NewBlue is trying to use the Intel for its titles and having problems. Have you made sure that you have set the NVidia to the main screen?
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                    • #11
                      Thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions. I have a lot to try.

                      Like I said, getting Quick Sync to work in Edius 7 or 8.1 in Windows 7 with one monitor has always been so simple (just go into Screen resolution, detect a second monitor (even though it didn't exist), save VGA monitor, extend it and voila. It just hoped it would still be there in Windows 10.

                      Hey maybe my upgrade process is the problem. Maybe I should uninstall the Intel drivers before I upgrade and have them install fresh when Windows 10 installs.

                      Based on the replies I'm getting, I guess my situation is very rare. However, if I find the solution that works for me in Windows 10 I will post it.

                      Again Thanks!

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                      • #12
                        I do clean installs of Win 10 all the time and the 'fake' option isn't there, it's been removed from Win 10. There are others online also asking how to get it back which is where I came across that site for making a plug to fool it into thinking something is attached
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                        • #13
                          Okay, just to be clear about my point.

                          The "Fake" option is actually there in Windows 10 Home (it just only shows ups, currently, only in the Control Panel Screen resolution as an option).

                          In that location, one can go through the same processes to set it up the "Fake" VGA monitor as one does in Windows 7.

                          The problem is that when you go to SAVE your effort, it simply will not take...

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