Track / global effects

[Craig Tarling]

Is there any way to insert a global effect (AUDIO or VIDEO) on a complete track, or master AUDIO / VIDEO track? I cannot believe you need to process each clip one by one.

In other editing packages such as SONY VEGAS, you insert a VST plugin or VIDEO EFFECT on a track, or clip...very easily...

[GrassValley_PS]

I don't understand the need to bold that Vegas can do it? So can EDIUS.
Several ways. Probably the easiest is to Highlight the track, Hit CTRL A which highlights everything, then drag and drop the effect. It applies it all at once.

[kpot]

Hi Craig:
One important question is: Would you like to delete an effect which you have dropped onto all clips in a track by a "simple action" or could you live with deleting that effect clip by clip?

If you prefer the "simple action" then
- you could bring the entire track into the BIN as a sequence and use that sequence for further manipulations or
- you could use SHIFT+Q which renders the track (or all clips marked with IN/OUT) and puts the result on the first free V-track (if there is no free v-track Edius generates one automatically) and you can use this clip for further manipulations.
Regards kurt
PS: If you are looking for what is called "Adjustment Layers" in Premiere Pro - Edius doesnt have that feature.
// Adjustment Layer is a virtual track/clip where one can put effects which affects the clips beneath that virtual track/clip.

[Captain]

Rather this one:

1. Create a new sequence within your project.
2. Drag the first sequence into the new one - it will appear as one clip.
3. Apply video and/or audio effects on that one clip as global.

/edit: kpot was faster :-)

[Craig Tarling]

Tacky

Hi guys. Thanks for the replies (sorry about the bold text)....

All of these options are really tacky. Not user friendly at all. In other editing programs you can add an effect to an entire TRACK or place it on a MASTER TRACK. This is either AUDIO or VIDEO. No rendering to other tracks, sequence creation etc. You just in essence DRAG and DROP an effect (COLOUR CORRECTION - video / DYNAMICS - audio) etc etc etc. to a track and then set it up as needed. Basically applying a GLOBAL effect rather than a CLIP FOR CLIP effect.

Imagine I have 2 camera shots and have 400 edits on a timeline. Both cameras same colour temp. Now I want to add COLOUR CORRECTION etc etc to the main edit (MASTER TRACK) - how can I do this...

Same for audio. I have all my tracks balanced etc. but I cannot apply a generic effect to an entire track (SAY DIALOGUE 1 or DIALOGUE 2) but must do it CLIP FOR CLIP.

Makes no sense. Seems very limiting.

That being said, I have been an editor for many many year and have spent more than 10 years using SONY VEGAS PRO. I am new to EDIUS and I LOVE IT. I REALLY DO. But this effects problem is a real issue to me....

[GrassValley_PS]

Hi guys. Thanks for the replies (sorry about the bold text)....

Imagine I have 2 camera shots and have 400 edits on a timeline. Both cameras same colour temp. Now I want to add COLOUR CORRECTION etc etc to the main edit (MASTER TRACK) - how can I do this...

Same for audio. I have all my tracks balanced etc. but I cannot apply a generic effect to an entire track (SAY DIALOGUE 1 or DIALOGUE 2) but must do it CLIP FOR CLIP.

Makes no sense. Seems very limiting.

That being said, I have been an editor for many many year and have spent more than 10 years using SONY VEGAS PRO. I am new to EDIUS and I LOVE IT. I REALLY DO. But this effects problem is a real issue to me....

I answered this for you. Select the track hit ctrl A and drag and drop once to your 400 clips.

[antonsvideo]

I answered this for you. Select the track hit ctrl A and drag and drop once to your 400 clips.

may I expand? in case it is misunderstood?

selecting track by clicking track and pressing CTRL+A worked in EDIUS5 and earlier

since EDIUS6, one needs to click the track header on the left and then press Ctrl+A

[Craig Tarling]

Misunderstood

Hi Anton

No misunderstanding here. I know what you said. What you are doing is exactly my problem. You are still in essence adding an effect PER CLIP. I want to add an effect PER TRACK. Yes, Ctrl+A, drag drop clip, adds the effect to each clip but now, if I want to adjust all the clips I cannot do that. If I adjust the EQ of the one clip it's only on that clip. If I want to compress an entire mix, I want to add a compressor to the MIX MASTER (on the mixer) and not clip by clip.

On other editing apps like Vegas, you can add FX to either clip or track. You can also create mix busses and can again apply an effect to that specific bus (such as a telephone EQ, reverb, etc.). I have ProTools and can export to that but would prefer to handle a simple mix in Edius entirely. I have spent ages reading the manual, searching online etc and just cannot find a solution to this.

This audio explanation above is in essence the same issue for VIDEO. What if I want to add an effect to the master video track?? Again, on Vegas, you have a master AUDIO and a master VIDEO track that you can automate, add effect on etc...

It feels that while Edius is an amazing editing platform, they have not spent much time on the audio mixing side or feel that global FX for either audio or video is not important. I have searched for ways in Edius to do this but not coming right.

I really appreciate all the feedback and pray I / we can find a way to do this. Maybe Edius 9...

[David Clarke]

EDIUS does not do track effects but then most editing programs do not. Vegas does, Premiere and Avid only do audio track effects. That's just how it works. The above options are the way of doing it in EDIUS. Unfortunately no editing program is perfect.

[Craig Tarling]

Thanks David. Much appreciated

[kpot]

I answered this for you. Select the track hit ctrl A and drag and drop once to your 400 clips.

Hi:
I dont know how the "track-version" of Vegas works.

But if the OP means that he want to place an effect on all clips of a track and then modify that effect for all clips - then he need to do one of the above alternatives.
If he uses the "CTRL+A plus drag&drop" method then he must try the effect setting on one of the clips and then drag&drop that onto the rest of the track.
Am I wrong?
kurt

[kpot]

...Premiere and Avid only do audio track effects...

Sorry: Premiere do at least also Video-Effects (Premiere CC 2015).
Regards kurt

[David Clarke]

Premiere does not let you add a video effect to a track like Vegas does, but you can have an effect on the source clip, which is different. Just another indication that all editing programs do things in different ways.

[kpot]

Premiere does not let you add a video effect to a track like Vegas does, but you can have an effect on the source clip, which is different. Just another indication that all editing programs do things in different ways.

Hi David:
Sorry, I didnt be precise enough (english isnt my native language).
What I wanted to say is: Using Adjustment Layers in Premiere Pro (since PP CS6) allows one to put (video-) effects on that layer operating on all clips beneath that layer-track. Modifying the effects in the Adjustment Layer therefore is a single operation (per effect) which operate on all the clips beneath the Adjustment Layer.
The Adjustment Layer above a "normal" track looks like a clip (magenta colored), can be trimmed etc.
kurt

[GrassValley_SL]

Hi guys. Thanks for the replies (sorry about the bold text)....

All of these options are really tacky. Not user friendly at all. In other editing programs you can add an effect to an entire TRACK or place it on a MASTER TRACK. This is either AUDIO or VIDEO. No rendering to other tracks, sequence creation etc. You just in essence DRAG and DROP an effect (COLOUR CORRECTION - video / DYNAMICS - audio) etc etc etc. to a track and then set it up as needed. Basically applying a GLOBAL effect rather than a CLIP FOR CLIP effect.

Imagine I have 2 camera shots and have 400 edits on a timeline. Both cameras same colour temp. Now I want to add COLOUR CORRECTION etc etc to the main edit (MASTER TRACK) - how can I do this...

Same for audio. I have all my tracks balanced etc. but I cannot apply a generic effect to an entire track (SAY DIALOGUE 1 or DIALOGUE 2) but must do it CLIP FOR CLIP.

Makes no sense. Seems very limiting.

That being said, I have been an editor for many many year and have spent more than 10 years using SONY VEGAS PRO. I am new to EDIUS and I LOVE IT. I REALLY DO. But this effects problem is a real issue to me....

Hi there,

We do understand what you are asking. At this time it is not possible in EDIUS to apply an effect to a track or a bus on the mixer.

This is on the feature request list.

At this time there are some good solutions posted in this thread to help you achieve what you want.