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  • robchand58
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 29

    Beware Of Latest Windows 7 Updates

    For whatever reason, I could not burn a DVD last night. Tried everything. Specifically, the encoding process would not initialize. Then I rolled back Windows to my last known successful burn - back in May of this year. Instant success!!

    So beware of the last few updates to Windows 7.
  • Adbear
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2002

    #2
    No problems here with burning DVD's with the latest Windows updates installed
    DVC Built Clevo P775DM3-G Laptop with UHD screen, 7700K [email protected], Geforce GTX 1060 6GB GPU, 500GB M.2 Primary, 1x 480GB SSD, 1x1TB M.2, 1x 2TB 5400RPM Video drives, external Blu-ray Optical

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    • Ron Evans
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 4868

      #3
      Spent a couple of hours yesterday getting a friends PC back to running consistently. It was set to auto update and got itself in a loop of installing updates then not completing, uninstalling and then starting all over again. Ended up having to do a full restore as he is a senior and only uses to play games and look at some newspapers so no real problem to reinstall things. Was an ACER PC he only got a couple of years ago and was running WIN8.1 . I expect it was originally WIN8 and the update was to 8.1 in preparation for WIN10 !! I have now turned off updates for him !! Using restore resulted in a clean load of WIN8.1 works fine so not sure what the problem was.

      Ron
      Ron Evans

      Threadripper 1920 stock clock 3.7, Gigabyte Designare X399 MB, 32G G.Skill 3200CL14, 500G M.2 NVME OS, 500G EVO 850 temp. 1T EVO 850 render, 16T Source, 2 x 1T NVME, Gigabyte 4070Ti 12G , EVGA 850 G2, LG BLuray Burner, BM IP4K, WIN10 Pro, Shuttle Pro2

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      • Adbear
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2002

        #4
        The Win 8.1 update came out over a year ago, so unless he never let it update in that time then I doubt it was that.
        The Win 10 update doesn't need your Win 8 to be updated to Win 8.1 first. It will install Win 10 then hook in all the necessary registry entries etc to keep you installed programs and hardware going in Win 10. It then removes the Win 7/8/8.1 installation
        Also not sure what an update to Windows 8 has to do with DVD recording in Edius under Win 7
        Last edited by Adbear; 07-26-2015, 10:48 PM.
        DVC Built Clevo P775DM3-G Laptop with UHD screen, 7700K [email protected], Geforce GTX 1060 6GB GPU, 500GB M.2 Primary, 1x 480GB SSD, 1x1TB M.2, 1x 2TB 5400RPM Video drives, external Blu-ray Optical

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        • Ron Evans
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 4868

          #5
          It was the fact that there was a set of updates last week that caused the problem that prompted my response. Clearly affected the hardware in my friends PC so why not a DVD recorder ? Yes it problably had updated early as you suggested but this last update was not nice to it !!

          Ron Evans
          Ron Evans

          Threadripper 1920 stock clock 3.7, Gigabyte Designare X399 MB, 32G G.Skill 3200CL14, 500G M.2 NVME OS, 500G EVO 850 temp. 1T EVO 850 render, 16T Source, 2 x 1T NVME, Gigabyte 4070Ti 12G , EVGA 850 G2, LG BLuray Burner, BM IP4K, WIN10 Pro, Shuttle Pro2

          ASUS PB328 monitor, BenQ BL2711U 4K preview monitor, EDIUS X, 9.5 WG, Vegas 18, Resolve Studio 18


          Cameras: GH5S, GH6, FDR-AX100, FDR-AX53, DJI OSMO Pocket, Atomos Ninja V x 2

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          • Adbear
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 2002

            #6
            I suspect it was more likely that he already had some corrupt files and the update just highlighted the problem
            DVC Built Clevo P775DM3-G Laptop with UHD screen, 7700K [email protected], Geforce GTX 1060 6GB GPU, 500GB M.2 Primary, 1x 480GB SSD, 1x1TB M.2, 1x 2TB 5400RPM Video drives, external Blu-ray Optical

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            • kpot
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 1363

              #7
              Originally posted by Ron Evans
              It was the fact that there was a set of updates last week that caused the problem ...
              Just for your information:

              When updated my system 7/64 with the last win-updates I included also one optional update. Result:
              When restarting the PC I got a black screen.
              Could solve that problem only by restoring my system with the last system-image.
              regards kurt
              HW: ASUS Z170-A; Proz: i7-6700K; RAM: 32 GB DDR4; GPU: RTX-3070, 8GB GDDR5; SSD: SAMSUNG-850-Pro, 500 GB
              SW: WIN-10/64 PRO (22H2-19045-2364​​), Firefox u.a.
              NLE: EDIUS-11.11.14138-WG​​​​​​​​​; RESOLVE-18.6.6.0007 Studio​
              // Read > Test > Understand

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              • createmedia
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1771

                #8
                I had that black screen with the mouse pointer sitting in there looking lonely with no desktop GUI as well and had to restore to 17th July.


                Also had VST Plugins on Edius WG8 not working, and GV Browser would not launch, fixed with restore which crashed.

                Then had to repair Win7.

                Found in registry logon key value with UserGUI.exe with a comma after it and removed the comma.

                I had blamed the GPU test program FurMark putting DirectX on but I am not convinced it wasn't a Windows update.

                Mike
                Sys4: Edius9/11WG ASUS Z10PE-D16WS MB 2xE5-2696 Xeon 72 cores. 16TB RAID0 64G RAM RTX3090Ti. Samsung 55" QLED 1500 NIT HDR 4K TV. Storm3G Elite/Decklink 4K 12G HDR. Yamaha RX-A870 A/V 7.1 audio. Sys1-3 Edius 8.5 WG + RX-E1+HDBX1000 MIP HP xw8600 2 x X5492 CPU 8 cores, 8G RAM, GTX1080TI. All sys Fibred to central media pool - 5TB RAID + QLogic Fibre Switch. Central SD Pro VCR rack. All sys YUV & audio to theatre with Sony STR DN1040 7.1 audio amp with 1000W sub 63" HD 3D Samsung TV

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                • Adbear
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2002

                  #9
                  I'm building and installing systems every day and don't see any of this with all of the latest Windows updates installed
                  DVC Built Clevo P775DM3-G Laptop with UHD screen, 7700K [email protected], Geforce GTX 1060 6GB GPU, 500GB M.2 Primary, 1x 480GB SSD, 1x1TB M.2, 1x 2TB 5400RPM Video drives, external Blu-ray Optical

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                  • Ron Evans
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 4868

                    #10
                    Yes I understand but you are building clean systems rather than systems that have been used for several years with all sorts of updates that may not have completed correctly either. A valid reason for a clean build. In my friends case he only had a few games and his mail program ( that he never used as his wife always used the mail program on her machine ) so not big deal to re install. However some people have a lot of software loaded with registrations etc etc and a re install is a sizable task.

                    I too cannot recall having a problem when I make a new PC with a clean build.

                    Ron Evans
                    Ron Evans

                    Threadripper 1920 stock clock 3.7, Gigabyte Designare X399 MB, 32G G.Skill 3200CL14, 500G M.2 NVME OS, 500G EVO 850 temp. 1T EVO 850 render, 16T Source, 2 x 1T NVME, Gigabyte 4070Ti 12G , EVGA 850 G2, LG BLuray Burner, BM IP4K, WIN10 Pro, Shuttle Pro2

                    ASUS PB328 monitor, BenQ BL2711U 4K preview monitor, EDIUS X, 9.5 WG, Vegas 18, Resolve Studio 18


                    Cameras: GH5S, GH6, FDR-AX100, FDR-AX53, DJI OSMO Pocket, Atomos Ninja V x 2

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                    • SoundFreak_HD
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 2464

                      #11
                      Originally posted by createmedia

                      Found in registry logon key value with UserGUI.exe with a comma after it and removed the comma.

                      living life dangerously .........
                      Tony D.

                      EDIUS WG 9.54 / MATROX MXO2 LE / WIN10 Pro WS / LENOVO P71 Workstation laptop / XEON E3-1535M v6 / nVidia QUADRO P3000 6GB / Toshiba M.2 NVMe 512GB / 2x Samsung 860 EVO 4TB / 32GB ECC RAM.
                      EDIUS WG 8.53 / HDRX-E1 + HDBX-1000H / WIN10 Pro / DUAL XEON X5470 / SUPERMICRO X7DWA-N / SUPERMICRO SUPERCHASIS SC745TQ-920B / INTEL 520 SSD 240GB / WD CAVIAR BLACK 4TB (many) / 32GB ECC RAM / GTX 770 4GB / 2x MOTU 896HD.
                      wavearts / neatvideo / tmpgenc / hitfilm / imaginate / affinity

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                      • Adbear
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 2002

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ron Evans
                        Yes I understand but you are building clean systems rather than systems that have been used for several years with all sorts of updates that may not have completed correctly either. A valid reason for a clean build. In my friends case he only had a few games and his mail program ( that he never used as his wife always used the mail program on her machine ) so not big deal to re install. However some people have a lot of software loaded with registrations etc etc and a re install is a sizable task.

                        I too cannot recall having a problem when I make a new PC with a clean build.

                        Ron Evans
                        I'm also doing repairs to old systems as well as upgrades to old systems, all of which I update before sending out and still not seeing any of these problems. Some of my more recent repairs/upgrades didn't even have SP1 on them
                        DVC Built Clevo P775DM3-G Laptop with UHD screen, 7700K [email protected], Geforce GTX 1060 6GB GPU, 500GB M.2 Primary, 1x 480GB SSD, 1x1TB M.2, 1x 2TB 5400RPM Video drives, external Blu-ray Optical

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                        • Ron Evans
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 4868

                          #13
                          You are very lucky then as the looping update issue is reported on several sites as I just did a quick search before I went to see him to fix his PC.

                          Ron Evans
                          Ron Evans

                          Threadripper 1920 stock clock 3.7, Gigabyte Designare X399 MB, 32G G.Skill 3200CL14, 500G M.2 NVME OS, 500G EVO 850 temp. 1T EVO 850 render, 16T Source, 2 x 1T NVME, Gigabyte 4070Ti 12G , EVGA 850 G2, LG BLuray Burner, BM IP4K, WIN10 Pro, Shuttle Pro2

                          ASUS PB328 monitor, BenQ BL2711U 4K preview monitor, EDIUS X, 9.5 WG, Vegas 18, Resolve Studio 18


                          Cameras: GH5S, GH6, FDR-AX100, FDR-AX53, DJI OSMO Pocket, Atomos Ninja V x 2

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                          • Adbear
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2002

                            #14
                            Actually I would say it's the other way round, he was unlucky. You have to bear in mind that the number posting on forums having an issue is tiny compared to the actual number of people doing the updates and having no issues.
                            DVC Built Clevo P775DM3-G Laptop with UHD screen, 7700K [email protected], Geforce GTX 1060 6GB GPU, 500GB M.2 Primary, 1x 480GB SSD, 1x1TB M.2, 1x 2TB 5400RPM Video drives, external Blu-ray Optical

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                            • SoundFreak_HD
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 2464

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Adbear
                              Actually I would say it's the other way round, he was unlucky. You have to bear in mind that the number posting on forums having an issue is tiny compared to the actual number of people doing the updates and having no issues.
                              Maybe because most users have windows update disabled and do it manually or not at all.

                              Maybe all the old Edius versions still being used while updates are free should be a good indication of how up to date systems really are.

                              Many users still have the old (wise) thinking of if it ain't broke don't fix it :)
                              Tony D.

                              EDIUS WG 9.54 / MATROX MXO2 LE / WIN10 Pro WS / LENOVO P71 Workstation laptop / XEON E3-1535M v6 / nVidia QUADRO P3000 6GB / Toshiba M.2 NVMe 512GB / 2x Samsung 860 EVO 4TB / 32GB ECC RAM.
                              EDIUS WG 8.53 / HDRX-E1 + HDBX-1000H / WIN10 Pro / DUAL XEON X5470 / SUPERMICRO X7DWA-N / SUPERMICRO SUPERCHASIS SC745TQ-920B / INTEL 520 SSD 240GB / WD CAVIAR BLACK 4TB (many) / 32GB ECC RAM / GTX 770 4GB / 2x MOTU 896HD.
                              wavearts / neatvideo / tmpgenc / hitfilm / imaginate / affinity

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