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  • 2160p files choke on playback from YouTube

    Is there any reason why Edius has a problem with files from YouTube?

    Here is the URL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPrECdzo6x0

    It is a 2160p clip from the Sony PXW-Z100 in Tokyo.

    Using the YouTube Free downloader from http://youtubedownloader.com/ to download the file, Daum Pot Player plays it perfectly on the desktop but in Edius on system 4 it just chokes and won't play.

    Pot Player seems to be using FFMPEG h264 to play the file and uses the GPU to play it back.

    In Edius the CPU utilisation is only at 22% when trying to play so I think it is outside Edius's understanding, yet it is an MP4 H264 file.

    The same thing happens using AEX filters I note it doesn't wind up the CPU on playback so a render is needed to play. Sapphire and ProDad use the GPU and they push that hard.

    Mike
    Sys4: Z10PE-D16WS MB 2xE5-2696 Xeon 72 active logical cores. EWG9. 64G RAM. Aorus GTX1080Ti. 55" Q7 1500 NIT HDR 4K TV/Storm 3G Elite/Decklink 4K 12G/8CH audio monitoring, Yamaha RXA-870 A/V. Sys1-3 EWG8 + RX-E1+HDBX1000 MIP in HP xw8600 2 x X5492 CPU 8 cores, 8Gig RAM, Quadro FX3800. All sys Fibre to central media pool - 5TB Axus Yotta RAID + QLogic Fibre Switch. Central VCR rack plus YUV & audio to viewing room with Yamaha AX1 7.1 100 watt per channel amp with 1000W sub 63" HD 3D Samsung TV

  • #2
    If you're just talking playback, I get a steady buffer climb all the way to 300.
    This is on the 4790k. If I place a Sapphire filter on it, I have to do a buffer prefill to get it to play.
    This file is an AVC ([email protected]) versus [email protected] which we normally see.
    That same file will play in RT at FULL resolution with the Procamp filter applied using Premiere. Sapphire Chokes it as well.
    Last edited by Jerry; 06-17-2015, 05:31 PM.
    Jerry
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    • #3
      Hello Jerry

      It just won't play either on the previous dual 6 core Xeon Pc or this dual 16 core one. No filters applied. I wonder why your i7 is playing it and the dual Xeon PC's aren't? Is Edius using something in the i7 that isn't in the Xeon?

      The main difference being the on board GPU in the i7. Because I see such low CPU activity while attempting to play that might well be the case its looking for something on the CPU which it finds on yours and doesn't know what to do on mine. Also I note from the ARK site the i7 has SSE4.1/4.2 & AVX2.0, my CPU just has AVX2.0 listed but Edius is not complaining there is any facility missing.

      Other mp4's play OK here such as those direct from camera it is just these YouTube types I have problems with in Edius the desktop is quite happy to play it.

      What do you think is (not) going on?

      Mike
      Sys4: Z10PE-D16WS MB 2xE5-2696 Xeon 72 active logical cores. EWG9. 64G RAM. Aorus GTX1080Ti. 55" Q7 1500 NIT HDR 4K TV/Storm 3G Elite/Decklink 4K 12G/8CH audio monitoring, Yamaha RXA-870 A/V. Sys1-3 EWG8 + RX-E1+HDBX1000 MIP in HP xw8600 2 x X5492 CPU 8 cores, 8Gig RAM, Quadro FX3800. All sys Fibre to central media pool - 5TB Axus Yotta RAID + QLogic Fibre Switch. Central VCR rack plus YUV & audio to viewing room with Yamaha AX1 7.1 100 watt per channel amp with 1000W sub 63" HD 3D Samsung TV

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      • #4
        It might be the clock speed of 4.7GHz.
        Jerry
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        Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
        Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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        • #5
          Yes as I have just looked up the X5650 the old dual CPU and that had SSE4.2 and that wouldn't play it either and AVX2.0 is supposed to be the next move on from SSE giving 2.8 times the performnce of SSE.

          It was only recently I found out from other responses that Edius is more responsive to clock speed than cores which seems a rather unusual approach, but we are where we are that's how it works.

          Of course because my CPU usage is low they are not going into turbo mode at 3.6Ghz so my clock speed will be alot lower at 2.3GHz.

          I don't luckily need to use these files seriously they are just nice demos, and to play them I change them into HQX.

          Mike
          Sys4: Z10PE-D16WS MB 2xE5-2696 Xeon 72 active logical cores. EWG9. 64G RAM. Aorus GTX1080Ti. 55" Q7 1500 NIT HDR 4K TV/Storm 3G Elite/Decklink 4K 12G/8CH audio monitoring, Yamaha RXA-870 A/V. Sys1-3 EWG8 + RX-E1+HDBX1000 MIP in HP xw8600 2 x X5492 CPU 8 cores, 8Gig RAM, Quadro FX3800. All sys Fibre to central media pool - 5TB Axus Yotta RAID + QLogic Fibre Switch. Central VCR rack plus YUV & audio to viewing room with Yamaha AX1 7.1 100 watt per channel amp with 1000W sub 63" HD 3D Samsung TV

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          • #6
            Can you set the chips to a fixed turbo mode in bios?
            Last edited by Jerry; 06-17-2015, 08:13 PM.
            Jerry
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            Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
            http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


            Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
            Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by createmedia View Post
              Using the YouTube Free downloader from http://youtubedownloader.com/ to download the file, Daum Pot Player plays it perfectly on the desktop but in Edius on system 4 it just chokes and won't play.Mike
              Beware, I very nearly installed this until I realised it's not Google software, the exe file's digital signature says Bonjoy Software, arg!

              freeyoutubedownloaderoc.exe
              Free YouTube Downloader
              Bonjoy Software
              The application freeyoutubedownloaderoc.exe, “Free YouTube Downloader Setup Program” by Bonjoy Software has been detected as adware by 4 anti-malware scanners. This is a self-extracting archive and installer and has been known to bundle potentially unwanted software. The installer uses the OpenCandy monitzation platform which will donwload and install offers in the setup for potentially unwanted software including ad/search-supported toolbars. The file has been seen being downloaded from getyoutubedownloader.com and multiple other hosts.
              Claire

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              • #8
                If you do a custom install the additional software mentioned can be bypassed.
                Jerry
                Six Gill DV
                www.sgdvtutorials.com
                If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                Vistitle YouTube Channel
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                Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                • #9
                  Only Power settings Jerry in Bios;-

                  [Disabled], [Energy Efficient] [Custom]

                  Energy performance: [Performance], [Balanced performance] [Balanced Power] [Power].

                  I will have to have a look into it when I next boot.
                  Sys4: Z10PE-D16WS MB 2xE5-2696 Xeon 72 active logical cores. EWG9. 64G RAM. Aorus GTX1080Ti. 55" Q7 1500 NIT HDR 4K TV/Storm 3G Elite/Decklink 4K 12G/8CH audio monitoring, Yamaha RXA-870 A/V. Sys1-3 EWG8 + RX-E1+HDBX1000 MIP in HP xw8600 2 x X5492 CPU 8 cores, 8Gig RAM, Quadro FX3800. All sys Fibre to central media pool - 5TB Axus Yotta RAID + QLogic Fibre Switch. Central VCR rack plus YUV & audio to viewing room with Yamaha AX1 7.1 100 watt per channel amp with 1000W sub 63" HD 3D Samsung TV

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                  • #10
                    I downloaded the file using Internet Download Manager.
                    Put it onto a 4K 29,97P project and it played without a hitch
                    Same as Jerry - the buffer climbed steadily to 300
                    Regards
                    Douglas
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                    Main System: EDIUS WG 9, Asustek Intel Z370, i7-8700K @ 3.70GHz, 32GB RAM, GTX-1080Ti, BMD Intensity Pro 4K, Windows 10 Pro

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                    • #11
                      Ok Guys , this has gone far enough. If the video is not available as a direct download from youtube, what is proposed here is kind of illegal and needs to be discussed elsewhere. Thanks for understanding.
                      This thread is closed
                      Steve

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