Third party photo montage

[mike0130]

Imaginate is good, but there is no need to cry over it. As far as I know Edius v5 will include pan&scan features. In other words you will be able to do all the Imaginate work without leaving Edius...
mike

[Jerry]

Imaginate is good, but there is no need to cry over it. As far as I know Edius v5 will include pan&scan features. In other words you will be able to do all the Imaginate work without leaving Edius...
mike

If it is anything like the 3d pip results, I'll pass on that.

[Jerry]

Gary,

Are you using the IVP file in the Edius timeline, or are you rendering out an AVI file from Imaginate?

I bought Imaginate just recently after playing around with the trial version where because saving the project file is disabled I had to render out an HQ AVI. Everything was pin sharp. However in the full version where I can now save the project and place the IVP file on the Edius timeline I was dismayed to find the results soft! I weep!

As a careful test I took a 3072 x 2048 JPEG from my Canon EOS camera which I had carefully adjusted for correct levels and put into 709 colour space (in AE7) and I put this on the HDV timeline above an IVP of the same image.

This image is dead sharp well into the corners, taken with my Canon 100mm macro lens at a high shutter speed, this lens never lets me down!

Flicking between the two with the track enable switch, the IVP version is soft while the JPEG above is pin sharp. BTW I am monitoring with an HDTV via NX HDV card.

Finally I export the Imaginate project as Canopus HQ and place that on a third track in Edius, this one is every bit as good as the original still below so this tells me that Imaginate is rendering okay but I haven't a clue what is going on with the IVP on the timeline????????

I am curious to know if this is normal behaviour or a bug somewhere, I did not have Imaginate when I had Edius 3 so don't know how the IVP would behave there but since you say there was no problem with Imaginate in Rex then could it be Edius at fault?

Jerry how are you doing this?

I have never used the ivp method.
I prefer to add my motion within Imaginate, without transitions, then export to uncompressed HD files for ingest into Edius. Once in Edius I chop it up and add transitions that fit the time frame. I don't know if I have any more control over the image than with the ivp file, but from what I am reading,
it seems this method renders the crisp clean image as opposed to a softer image through the ivp file.

[Claire]

That would indeed be nice, would it be too much to hope for spline interpolation keyframing like Imaginate?

Today, I am gradually learning myself a workflow technique on how to use my new purchase of Imaginate together with Edius as if it was a built in feature. I have Imaginate on monitor 2 which normally shows my Edius bin (which I turned off). The IVP file is on my Edius timeline on monitor 1 and whenever I save the Imaginate project after making some change it updates in Edius and I can preview it on the HDTV.

This is pretty neat! Similar to using TMPro in fact, as you have to save it before closing. This is a very powerful feature, sigh.. apart from the blurry look but when I finish I will replace the IVP file with a render to AVI file from Imaginate, which fixes that issue.

[Claire]

I have never used the ivp method.
I prefer to add my motion within Imaginate, without transitions, then export to uncompressed HD files for ingest into Edius. Once in Edius I chop it up and add transitions that fit the time frame. I don't know if I have any more control over the image than with the ivp file, but from what I am reading,
it seems this method renders the crisp clean image as opposed to a softer image through the ivp file.

That would explain why you have no blurriness issues, thanks.