Seethrough offline clip

[zvit]

I'd think it would be wise if you had an offline file above an online file, that EDIUS should render the underlying ONline file instead of rendering a checkerboard when exporting.

[GrassValley_SL]

I don't think that would male a lot of sense. The indicator is there to warn you that the clip in your edit is off-line.
If you don't need the clip in your output delete the offline reference because in your scenario it seems that you have no use for the warning.
Or disable it with 0 (zero)

[zvit]

I don't think that would male a lot of sense. The indicator is there to warn you that the clip in your edit is off-line.
If you don't need the clip in your output delete the offline reference because in your scenario it seems that you have no use for the warning.
Or disable it with 0 (zero)

First, you see at the bottom the number of offline clips. Second, Edius can still warn you at export about offline clips - like it does now. But sometimes there are some small offline clips in a project with hundreds of clips and finding the offline ones can be like looking for needle in a haystack (Edius doesn't tell you where they are - just a timeline count) so if I know what they are and don't care to export the underlying online clip, (maybe I only rendered it so that the editing can go smoother but exporting the original one if fine) Edius should do that or at least give me an option to ignore offline clips at export.)

[GrassValley_SL]

Really it does not make a lot of sense.
If you are exporting and you see it you know where it is on your timeline.
Also during the edit you must see it. Kind of impossible to miss it.

But you can submit a feature request how to is described in this post:

http://forum.grassvalley.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24594

Thanks

[zvit]

Really it does not make a lot of sense.
If you are exporting and you see it you know where it is on your timeline.
Also during the edit you must see it. Kind of impossible to miss it.

But you can submit a feature request how to is described in this post:

http://forum.grassvalley.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24594

Thanks

It makes sense. I might have a project with thousands of clips that I've been working on for weeks and some have SHFT-Q renders and for whatever reason (it happens more than once) some of the rendered files disappear and become offline. Now I have to spend lots of time going through 80 timelines looking for it - even though I wouldn't care to have the non-rendered file be in the export.

Actually, exporting checkerboards is what doesn't make sense. WHY on earth would someone want to export offline checkerboards? If there is an online file beneath it, why not use it for export?

[GrassValley_SL]

Lets agree to disagree . The only way to go about it is to submit a feature request.
Sorry

[zvit]

Lets agree to disagree . The only way to go about it is to submit a feature request.
Sorry

I can agree to that. :-)

The request has been made years ago, by myself and others. (The request was for Edius to show us exactly on which timeline the offline clips are on and not just a timeline count).

[GrassValley_SL]

Sorry that is something different from what you are asking now. :)

[zvit]

Sorry that is something different from what you are asking now. :)

Well either one of these would help. Either telling me where the offline clips are or just let me not bother about it and export without worry of checkerboards.

[Rusty]

I'd think it would be wise if you had an offline file above an online file, that EDIUS should render the underlying ONline file instead of rendering a checkerboard when exporting.

Are you implying Edius should take the place of an editor's diligence to assure that assets used are ignored?
Edius only does what the editor tells it.
If clips are ignored, isn't that as bad as checkerboards?

[zvit]

Are you implying Edius should take the place of an editor's diligence to assure that assets used are ignored?

Who said ignore? An offline clip must be dealt with or it will produce checkerboards at export. Clips become offline by accident - no one purposely wants an offline clip. I would love not to ignore it but sometimes I can't find it because it's a 5 frame clip somewhere on one of the 80 timelines in between hundreds of clips. I'm only talking about a clip that has a GOOD clip under it! Of course if this wasn't the case, and Edius would ignore the offline one - it would produce black frames instead. I'm not talking about this case.

Edius only does what the editor tells it.
If clips are ignored, isn't that as bad as checkerboards?

You didn't read my post. Sometimes I only render a clip that stutters during edit so I can edit more smoothly. The underlying original clip is perfect for exporting too and if it can save me 30 minutes searching for the offline rendered clip - which I don't need anyways for export - why not? Again, I'm only talking about a clip that has a GOOD clip under it! Of course if this wasn't the case, and Edius would ignore the offline one - it would produce black frames instead. I'm not talking about this case.

[kpot]

IMO: offline-clips should not be part of TL. Sorry, thats to sophistic IMO.
kurt

[zvit]

IMO: offline-clips should not be part of TL. Sorry, thats to sophistic IMO.
kurt

I agree. So would you be happy to waste an hour searching for the offline clip, even though you know that the original clip is right bellow it and can be used instead?

[Adbear]

But then most people don't edit the way you do, they either use the original file or use the re-encoded one

[GrassValley_SL]

I agree. So would you be happy to waste an hour searching for the offline clip, even though you know that the original clip is right bellow it and can be used instead?

Kind of odd that you know where and when an off line file is right above the original yet you still have search hours for it. I am really wondering how it works?

Also If the files are off line why not restore them? That would be an easy fix.