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    I have a project that I need to convert to PAL and then to DigiBeta to send to Australia. Any suggestions as to the best way to do this to maintain the best quality?

  • #2
    what format is your current file? DV? D1? HDV?

    what is the total size of the file?
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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    • #3
      It's in DV and is a :30 second commercial spot with the bars, tones, etc it is 1:30

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      • #4
        Do you have PC3 Pat?
        Steve
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        • #5
          if its to go to Air in Australia than DigiBeta is not required, it is overkill

          I usually upload the commercial via ftp as mpeg2 program stream with wav audio at 25mbps

          however, in your case you need to convert NTSC to Pal, try ProCoder and see if you can convert a few seconds to Pal mpeg2 at 25mbps total and upload it somewhere, I can tell you if it will be accepted

          if it looks ok, I can provide you with contact details of AdStream in Sydney, it is less than $100 and they make the add available to all stations via a key number, they will give you ftp details
          Anton Strauss
          Antons Video Productions - Sydney

          EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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          • #6
            here are the contact details, ask him to email you the spec sheet

            Jeff Harrison
            Broadcast Account Service Manager NSW
            Adstream Pty Ltd

            Level 5, Tower B 207 Pacific Hwy
            St Leonards NSW 2065
            Ph: +612 9467 7540
            [email protected]
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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            • #7
              I think he should expand the color space first.
              That is if it is going to tape.
              Steve
              Steve
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              • #8
                I forgot to mention that H.264 is preferred format

                note that ProCoder limits mpeg2 to 15000 so that is useless
                Anton Strauss
                Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                • #9
                  oops, here are the settings I use
                  http://www.videoproductions.com.au/H264/
                  Anton Strauss
                  Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                  EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                  • #10
                    I also found a way to use ProCoder3 to export at 24000kbps and 320kbps audio

                    use the Mpeg2-422 preset and modify it as seen here
                    http://www.videoproductions.com.au/edius4/mpeg2-422.gif
                    Last edited by antonsvideo; 10-25-2007, 02:14 PM.
                    Anton Strauss
                    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                      I also found a way to use ProCoder3 to export at 24000kbps and 320kbps audio
                      Also you can do that in PCE, if select profile/level to [email protected]
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                      • #12
                        Steve, I do not have PC3, but I do have PC2. Am I able to expand the color space with that? Do I really need to?

                        Anton, the upload looks interesting and would certainly be the fastest way to get it done. I will check with the station and see if that would work, If it does I may have a few more questions.

                        We produced a commercial for cable here is the US in DV. The company (which is Austrailian based) like the add so much, that they want to air it there. They wanted a clean version of the ad (minus graphics and VO). They have a deal with the station to add the graphics and Austrailian VO as part of the air package. So I basically I'm lookin for the best way to convert to Pal and get it to the station. The station sent me their specs and it asked for it on DigiBeta.
                        Last edited by pjsssss; 10-25-2007, 07:20 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Whe always expand the color space when we have to go to digibeta.
                          Things out of AE are done with Magic Bullet. (to go to 4:2:2)
                          Since you are going to Pal I would suggest
                          1 expand the color space to 601
                          2 render out a HQ online file with the expanded color space
                          3 take that HQ file and convert it to Pal HQ online.

                          If you are going out form a Canopus system HQ is the way.
                          If you have a black magic card to go to digibeta I would suggest to go straight to the BM codec . ( which is what we do to play it out to the digibeta deck)

                          There are shops specialized in this and have the sdi playout ect.
                          Are you renting Pal digibeta deck?
                          Last edited by SRsupport; 10-25-2007, 07:04 PM.
                          Steve
                          EDIUS Trainer, Grass Cutter Gold
                          A proud EDIUS EDITOR
                          For more information on the Grass Cutter program please visit: http://www.grass-cutters.net

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                          • #14
                            No, I would be taking it to a shop.

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                            • #15
                              The plot thickens. In checking with local post houses, everyone here does NTSC only. The closest place that would do a D Beta Pal conversion is in Cleveland (about 300 miles away). Not to mention the multiple conversions loss.

                              Anton's ftp upload idea sounds like the best solution it the station will go that route.

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