move keyframe proportionally when stretching the clip

[scroogie]

hi there,

after years with Liquid Edition (and almost all its family tree) I'm now brand new to Edius 7 and I completed my first "learn while doing" project.

now my question:
lets take a 20 seconds clip with a number of keyframes in it (layouter)
let's now assume I need to stretch the clip to, say, 30 secs: any way to get the keyframes proportionally re-positioned?

thanks in advance

sauro

[kpot]

Hi:

If you stretch the clip via Clip > Time effect > Speed (=ALT+E) then Edius 7.21 will do the stretch of the Layouter-Keyframes automatically (as I could test this with a clip).
Try it and tell me if it works with your Edius also.
Regards kurt

[antonsvideo]

hi there,

after years with Liquid Edition (and almost all its family tree) I'm now brand new to Edius 7 and I completed my first "learn while doing" project.

now my question:
lets take a 20 seconds clip with a number of keyframes in it (layouter)
let's now assume I need to stretch the clip to, say, 30 secs: any way to get the keyframes proportionally re-positioned?

thanks in advance

sauro

nope, the layouter keyframes don't proportionally stretch like they used to in 3D PIP in older versions

changing speed will reduce quality

[kpot]

Hallo Anton:

Is my answer above correct?
Or did I misunderstand the question?
I am a little confused.

1) I placed at a 10 sec clip keyframes at positions 0, 2, 5 and 9 sec.
At position 5 sec I reduced the size to 50%.
2) With ALT+E then I changed the clip-duration to 30 sec.
3) Now the keyframes are on positions 0, 6, 15 and 27 sec.
4) And from position 6 to 15 sec the size changed from 100% to 50% and from position 15 to 27 sec back to 100%.

Kurt

[antonsvideo]

yes, but changing clip speed changes quality, so I avoid it unless slomo is needed

[scroogie]

thanks guys,
Kurt, in spite of my poor English you perfectly got the point :)
your solution is good if and when the slomo is acceptable.
unfortunately alt+E cannot be used on fix pictures
Anton, that's what I suspected! never mind, to manually move the keyframes is not the hardest part of editing!

[kpot]

@Anton: Thanks for the answer!
"...changing clip speed changes quality..." ===> I agree 100%, thats true.
// BTW: I didnt really know (I was unsure) that the keyframes were automatically proportional repositioned - one of the reasons why I have a regular look into the forum (to learn more or polish up my Edius knowledge).

@scroogie: "...unfortunately alt+E cannot be used on fix pictures..." ===> what do you mean with "fix pictures"?
If you mean still images, you are right.

One way (workaround) to get what you want could be:
1) Make that still image to a Timeline Sequence Clip (TLSC):
o Set IN/OUT for that still image and follow Bild-28.
o The result is Bild-29.
o Now follow Bild-30: Activate the still image (where your keyframes are) and drag the layouter onto the new TLSC. Now the keyframes are also on the new TLSC.
2) Now use that TLSC as your "normal" clip, where you could stretch it by ALT+E.
// Maybe we find a better solution (or GV implements a keyframe-copy-feature in the future or something like).

Regards kurt

[scroogie]

@Kurt,
that's a clever workaround perfect for still images!

thanks

sauro