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    This post has been removed by me, and not Steve or Pat.

    Sorry to those who made complaints over the length of my posts.

    To those who are interested, I will be starting a blog on my own web site and will post a link here when it is up and running.
    Last edited by Liverpool TV; 05-11-2014, 06:16 AM. Reason: Due to complaints

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    If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

    Is your Robot three laws safe?

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    Nice post!
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    • #3
      A great write-up. Thanks for taking the time to help us.

      It does remind me of a comedy act by Steve Martin. How to be a millionaire and not pay taxes.

      He said, " first you get a million dollars" then when the tax people jump on you for not paying taxes you just say, I forgot to pay the taxes!

      I always have trouble finding and remembering Blu-ray compliant specs!
      Edius 8 Workgroup, Intel 3770K, Asus P8Z77-V Motherboard, 32GB DDR3 1600 ram, SSD for C, external Raid box with WE RE4 1TB drives Raid 0 for video assets. Overclocked 4.3ghz, Asus GTX 660 ti, water cooled system. Windows 10 Professional 64bit

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GrassValley_PS
        Nice post!
        Thanks Pat.

        "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


        If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

        Is your Robot three laws safe?

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        • #5
          TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works 5 can use x264 and has so many features that I consider it both a bargain and a must.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by More4K
            Well- all could beat least 1 step simplified and you could have x264 inside Edius as a export option (like Premiere has)...only if GV would be more open to small developers :)
            There were many attempts to write some sort of plugins/exporters for Edius, but all end up on nothing due to difficulty to source SDK and attention from GV.
            Yes, X264 on the output would be great, maybe one day. Until then, this workflow is ok and is not too much hassle for those who are prepared to put a bit of effort in for maximum quality.

            "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


            If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

            Is your Robot three laws safe?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zorro
              TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works 5 can use x264 and has so many features that I consider it both a bargain and a must.
              Yes a great piece of software.

              Have not used it for ages so don't know about its X264 abilities. But if it handles the profiles etc. and you already own it, then it will work perfectly as the encoder element in this workflow.

              On the other hand, I am assuming that the vast amount of Edius users out there do not own it. On that basis, it is totally unnecessary to buy it for this workflow or any other H264 output. As my workflow is based around free applications, so no extra cost to get the best possible H264 for your Edius projects.

              "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


              If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

              Is your Robot three laws safe?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LTVHD
                But the GUI must be able to produce legal Blu-Ray elementary streams, this is very important.
                Which GUI supports Blu-Ray output elementary streams?

                Günter

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hamburg
                  Which GUI supports Blu-Ray output elementary streams?

                  Günter
                  I use MeGui, although there may be others that do it.

                  Some GUIs including MeGui allow the importing and adapting of scripts for the parameters, this site may be of help.


                  "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


                  If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

                  Is your Robot three laws safe?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LTVHD
                    I use MeGui, although there may be others that do it.

                    Some GUIs including MeGui allow the importing and adapting of scripts for the parameters, this site may be of help.

                    http://www.x264bluray.com
                    Thanks for the info. Good site. I'll try it with MeGui

                    Günter

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                    • #11
                      This method vs Brun to Disk for BluRay?

                      Hi LTVHD,

                      Thanks for sharing your method. I am always looking for methods to improve on quality and I will be trying your method.

                      I am using Edius Pro 6.55. When it comes to outputting to BluRay, have you compared your method to Burning to Disk directly from the Timeline? Is there a difference in quality? Anybody else tried both methods and compared them?

                      Thanks again for sharing.
                      BigRick, Montreal, Canada

                      EDIUS 8.3 with HDSpark - Intel I7-3770k, 16 GB Ram, Windows 10 64bit Home Premium, ASUS GF GTX560 TI 1 Gb Video Card and Intel® HD Graphics 4000, 2 X LCD 24" Monitors (1920X1200), 1 X LCD 32" Television
                      1 SSD Samsung 500 Gb (System),1 SSD Samsung 500 Gb (Video data), 2 X 3TB Sata II, and others

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bigrick
                        Hi LTVHD,

                        Thanks for sharing your method. I am always looking for methods to improve on quality and I will be trying your method.

                        I am using Edius Pro 6.55. When it comes to outputting to BluRay, have you compared your method to Burning to Disk directly from the Timeline? Is there a difference in quality? Anybody else tried both methods and compared them?

                        Thanks again for sharing.
                        Hi. Going from the timeline in Edius is great in either h264 or mpeg2, for speed and good quality. But my workflow produces a quality that really is the final word in h264 encoding for your Edius outputs, of any outputs. This is all down to x264. I have used every major encoder over the years for doing Bluray encoding, and x264 is just as good as stupidly priced encoders, and way better than most. When comparing to very expensive encoders, the differences are very subjective, to the point of not being different. When compared to most other encoders, the difference is not subjective, but very clear.

                        A quick way to compare, without the full blown workflow. Do an Edius h264 export of say a minutes worth of video. Then export the exact same piece as yuy2 and feed this to handbrake, using high level 4.1 at very long 2pass VBR @ 30mbps. Although this is not going to be Bluray compatible, it will be enough to show the difference.

                        "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


                        If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

                        Is your Robot three laws safe?

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                        • #13
                          Thanks LTVHD,

                          I really appreciate your insight here. I will give it a try when I get the time.

                          Thanks again....
                          BigRick, Montreal, Canada

                          EDIUS 8.3 with HDSpark - Intel I7-3770k, 16 GB Ram, Windows 10 64bit Home Premium, ASUS GF GTX560 TI 1 Gb Video Card and Intel® HD Graphics 4000, 2 X LCD 24" Monitors (1920X1200), 1 X LCD 32" Television
                          1 SSD Samsung 500 Gb (System),1 SSD Samsung 500 Gb (Video data), 2 X 3TB Sata II, and others

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bigrick
                            Thanks LTVHD,

                            I really appreciate your insight here. I will give it a try when I get the time.

                            Thanks again....
                            Rick. I am away from my system for a few days, but when I get back I will put together a downloadable project with examples of the workflow. It will have to be based on a 15 to 30 second timeline, because of the sizes for download. I will have to use an EX3 clip as the YUY2 clip would be too big for most people to download. So the workflow would be the same as my description, but I will supply the original EX3 clip for the A/B, but will use a YUY2 of the EX3 clip for the workflow through X264.

                            "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


                            If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

                            Is your Robot three laws safe?

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                            • #15
                              I'm interested in the process but you lost me way back with "x264" what is it? Maybe I'm using outdated edius software but my Blu-rays made from Edius 5.51 using "burn to disk" from the timeline don't come close to what I see with a 15Mbps H264 file output from edius then uploaded to vimeo then watched on a 55 inch HD TV via Roku box. Fine detail is gone - too pixelated when I use "burn' to disk.

                              update: well, I seem to have fix my issue - turns out the blu-ray player is connected to the TV via component cables and not HDMI. I connected via HDMI and it's a whole lot better! So nevermind . . . LOL
                              Last edited by JTE48; 12-27-2013, 09:10 PM.
                              Jim Edds www.ExtremeStorms.com

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