AVC-intra plugin

[juhaheiskanen]

Hi !

Got HPX-3000 HDCAM and now trying to import footages to Broadcast, but missing that AVC-intra plugin..

Anyone know where to get that..

Feels like havin a Ferrari, but no gas..

BR,

Juha

[SRsupport]

I think you need a extra license for that.

Sr

[GrassValley_CP]

Correct, you do need the AVC-Intra license plug-in for EDIUS Broadcast in order to import and edit AVC-Intra clips, which needs to be purchased separately. Once you have that additional license, you will then be able to see your AVC-Intra files in the P2 Select import dialog.

Contact your local Thomson Grass Valley sales office to get pricing and availability on that plug-in.

[juhaheiskanen]

Well, I guess I had that license before, but now formatted workstation, and AVC-intra not shown in list..

thank's anyway..

Thomson informed to uninstall and install Broadcast again.. no help.. no AVC, only Terabytes of AVC i 100 footages. Converting to HQ 1920x1080 is not supported..

This is HD world..

[GrassValley_CP]

You never had the AVC-Intra plug-in. This is a brand new license addition to EDIUS Broadcast, and it must be purchased separately. It has not been included with EDIUS Broadcast in any way, shape, or form.

There is no special AVC-Intra import dialog either--you use the P2 Select option in your import menu, and if you have the AVC-Intra license, you will then be able to see and import AVC-Intra files.

Contact your local Thomson Grass Valley sales office to get pricing and availability on that plug-in.

[STORMDAVE]

I think the user is confused with AVC-Intra and AVCHD.

AVCHD = Consumer format of H.264
AVC-Intra = Panasonic's professional grade H.264 codec.

They are totally different. AVCHD support is included in Edius 4.5, but not AVC-Intra, which is a separate license as Brandon has noted.

[juhaheiskanen]

Thank's..

AVC-Intra plugin cost is about $1000, and too expensive just for evaluating workflow. Instead I used TMPGen Xpress 4.0 to encode AVC-intra i100 footages to uncopressed RGB AVI. Then to Broadcast. Pretty heavy process but works fine. I'm not sure, does encoding keep 4:2:2 to broadcast..

What software I could use for file codec inspection ? Gspot 2.70a perhaps..

BR,

Juha

[STORMDAVE]

Try using Canopus HQ (Or Canopus Lossless, which is about half the size of uncompressed) instead of Uncompressed RGB, you'll save some space.

[gdame]

Thank's..

AVC-Intra plugin cost is about $1000, and too expensive just for evaluating workflow. Instead I used TMPGen Xpress 4.0 to encode AVC-intra i100 footages to uncopressed RGB AVI. Then to Broadcast. Pretty heavy process but works fine. I'm not sure, does encoding keep 4:2:2 to broadcast..

What software I could use for file codec inspection ? Gspot 2.70a perhaps..

BR,

Juha

H-m-m, That is clever Julia. You should try the other codecs (HQ, Lossless) as Stormdave suggested. From what I have heard the AVC-intra files are really tough on the systems realtime editing and response. So those other codecs may make for a smoother editing. Anything that eases workflow is huge in this "HD World".

[xeberdee]

Paying a $1000 for a plugin that converts 10 bit 1920x1080 into 8bit HQ really gives me the heebie jeebies!

I think the only way to go in a production is up in quality, not down.

[GrassValley_BH]

There's no reason you have to convert to HQ - the AVC-Intra plug-in lets you natively decode the AVC-Intra...

[xeberdee]

There's no reason you have to convert to HQ - the AVC-Intra plug-in lets you natively decode the AVC-Intra...

OK glad to hear it, I've been kinda waiting for that.

AVCHD as long GOP is very slow when in native m2t.
How is AVC Intra in comparison with regards decode intensive CPU tasks and Edius?

I should expect it to be much better, but I've not tried it yet (will do monday).

The question is if it is a useable workflow on a standard HPXW8400 dual core 4GB machine.

[GrassValley_KH]

That spec should be fine - we've added a fair amount of multi-threading optimisation to EDIUS specifically for native AVC-Intra - it used to be hard, but now it's much lighter on the system. You can get 1, maybe 2 streams of sustained playback...and with effects.

[STORMDAVE]

Paying a $1000 for a plugin that converts 10 bit 1920x1080 into 8bit HQ really gives me the heebie jeebies!

I think the only way to go in a production is up in quality, not down.

Edius is an 8bit NLE even if you use 10bit files.

[gdame]

Paying a $1000 for a plugin that converts 10 bit 1920x1080 into 8bit HQ really gives me the heebie jeebies!

I think the only way to go in a production is up in quality, not down.

While I agree, you would also need a super computer to edit that native format in real time as well as a super fast and large RAID array. Or, you could use my VelocityHD ;) LOL

The days of being able to edit that stuff in Edius without having to spend 30k are coming. In the meantime HQ and Lossless codecs are outstanding intermediary formats that allow the final MPEG2HD to look pretty darn good.