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    Hey everyone,

    i was very excited when i read about the upcoming AAF import/export in Edius from version 4.5.

    I havent had much opportunities to test it, as i mostly work with P2-footage, and AE simply doesnt support it natively as Edius does..!

    But i did some tests, and i didnt really look like it really works..at least the way i thought it would work..!
    (i had audio files doubled for example, half of them were empty..!)

    I couldnt really open the files in AE then, and it did export all the files somehow, one video-file in the end, for the whole timeline i had in Edius.

    I will do some more extended tests, but id be interested to hear from people if and how it works/changes the workflow..!?

    I thought it would work the way, that the AAF-file is a kind of extended EDL that keeps just the links to the original files, so you can access them in a different programm (like AE), without getting any extra files (audio or video) and gives you also the opportunity to change the in and outs, as the route is still set to the original file..but maybe i am wrong...any ideas here?
    Edius 6.52
    Windows 7-64bit
    8GB RAM
    Intel Core I5, [email protected],40GHz

  • #2
    AAF in AE is not any good in 6.5 and earlier.

    If you have a newer version of AE your audio should be in aif format.
    Then it works.

    You have option with aaf to link to the original files or create new ones in the original codec or a other codec.
    SO if you know that some program does not support codec x you would then tell the AAF to create the clips on export in a codec the other program supports.

    HQ is great for that.

    SR
    Steve
    EDIUS Trainer, Grass Cutter Gold
    A proud EDIUS EDITOR
    For more information on the Grass Cutter program please visit: http://www.grass-cutters.net

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    • #3
      It is incompatible with Avid AAF... :(

      I hope it will be improved
      Edius 8.5
      Desktop: Asus X99-E WS USB3.1 - Intel i7 6800K - 32Gb RAM
      Notebook: Asus N56V - Intel i7 3630QM 2.4 GHz - 16GB RAM

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      • #4
        It is incompatible with Avid AAF... :(

        I have tried a 5 minute long multicam (5 cameras) project without transitions at footage changes.
        Exported the AAF then loaded into Sony Vegas Pro8.
        Everything worked perfect including all the audio tracks, so on on this small trial I did not recognize incompatibility between Edius 4.51c and Vegas Pro8

        regards,

        Misi

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        • #5
          I can confirm that edius AAF works smooth with Sony vegas. I have helped some people with a smooth audio work flow to vegas. They use Edius to edit and vegas to sweeten audio.

          Sr
          Steve
          EDIUS Trainer, Grass Cutter Gold
          A proud EDIUS EDITOR
          For more information on the Grass Cutter program please visit: http://www.grass-cutters.net

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          • #6
            Originally posted by dioveht View Post
            It is incompatible with Avid AAF... :(
            I hope it will be improved
            You are refering to avid of course
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            • #7
              :) he he

              SR
              Steve
              EDIUS Trainer, Grass Cutter Gold
              A proud EDIUS EDITOR
              For more information on the Grass Cutter program please visit: http://www.grass-cutters.net

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              • #8
                Okey,

                must correct myself here,
                as i did some more tests, and indeed it works fine under some circumstances..(for example DV-footage, HQ clips..)!

                So sorry for mocking on Edius in this case..it was mostly due to my stupid settings i choose...so what i really need now is native P2 support in AE, but theres nothing GV can do in that case...hope adobe will invent it soon..!

                More extended tests with AAF to come..!

                Thanks everybody...!

                Anyone who has experience with protools?
                AAF would help a lot for sounddesign..!
                I need to do more extended tests with P2, but it seems obvious that Edius needs to export as AIF in this case, otherwise protools wount be able to read the .mxf ill try to get some experience here too..!
                Edius 6.52
                Windows 7-64bit
                8GB RAM
                Intel Core I5, [email protected],40GHz

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blast1 View Post
                  You are refering to avid of course
                  eheh, I'm refering to the "incomplete software" (Avid or Edius) :D
                  Edius 8.5
                  Desktop: Asus X99-E WS USB3.1 - Intel i7 6800K - 32Gb RAM
                  Notebook: Asus N56V - Intel i7 3630QM 2.4 GHz - 16GB RAM

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                  • #10
                    Okay guys... All software is incomplete (in someone's eyes) - that's why it's software and hasn't been hardware-ized.

                    Let's keep on track.

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                    • #11
                      At least the stuff i tried worked finally(in Edius and AE)...i am also critical on developement of GV/Canopus as i spent good money...but we should still keep it constructive, and yes, in my case it was mostly a user error...i am not saying that everything is working with AAF in Edius, but ill keep doing tests, and id like to hear others what kind of experience they got with AE and Protools..!
                      Edius 6.52
                      Windows 7-64bit
                      8GB RAM
                      Intel Core I5, [email protected],40GHz

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                      • #12
                        All right,

                        i keep going on with my test, and so far it looks really cool with AAF.
                        When i figured out that the most important settings are under "details", i also fixed i i could use the original clips of the footage..!

                        I did not do all tests, but i keep going.
                        After Effects is supposed to work with native P2 footage at the end of the year(!), this is when i can do the "real" tests when reimporting all my P2 footage-aaf-projects into AE for CC.
                        I am really looking forward to this point, as this will be the perfect workflow to me!
                        Just make sure that you dont mix footage with certain framerates in your projects, Edius will allow you to do so, and to output it, but if you are trying to export an AAF, Edius wount do it due to different framerates. (mostly when you use HD with 50 or 25 frames..!!)
                        Its the same situation when you try to merge different projects in a new sequence...so be aware!!
                        Edius 6.52
                        Windows 7-64bit
                        8GB RAM
                        Intel Core I5, [email protected],40GHz

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                        • #13
                          Uneducated as to what AAF is. Would someone be kind enough to forward a link that explains what you all are talking about?
                          Many thanks,
                          Alam
                          Alan J. Levi
                          Director

                          SYSTEM: ASUS P8Z77-VPro mobo, Intel 3770K CPU, 16 Gig Crucial 1866 RAM, Antec 1000W PS, EVGA nVidia 560Ti 1Gig Video, CoolerMaster CPU cooler, LG GGW-H20L BluRay DVD, SPARK card w/23" Samsung 1920x1080 Monitor, OCZ 240GB SSD boot in Swapable Tray & 3 WD Enterprise 1TB video RAID 5 HDD's. 4.5TB RAID 1 Outboard backups, Behringer2000 Audio Fader/Controller

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by AJL14 View Post
                            Uneducated as to what AAF is. Would someone be kind enough to forward a link that explains what you all are talking about?
                            Many thanks,
                            Alam

                            AAF (Advanced Authoring Format) - This Advanced Authoring Format was created by the AAF Association Inc. It's a professional format designed for video post production and authoring. AAF was created to address the problem of multi-vendor, cross-platform interoperability for computer-based digital production. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Authoring_Format

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                            • #15
                              Thanks, Pat. Hope you got my email last week.
                              Best,
                              Alan
                              Alan J. Levi
                              Director

                              SYSTEM: ASUS P8Z77-VPro mobo, Intel 3770K CPU, 16 Gig Crucial 1866 RAM, Antec 1000W PS, EVGA nVidia 560Ti 1Gig Video, CoolerMaster CPU cooler, LG GGW-H20L BluRay DVD, SPARK card w/23" Samsung 1920x1080 Monitor, OCZ 240GB SSD boot in Swapable Tray & 3 WD Enterprise 1TB video RAID 5 HDD's. 4.5TB RAID 1 Outboard backups, Behringer2000 Audio Fader/Controller

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