Edius 6.08 and Media Composer 7

[j king]

Hi,
In the past I have always kept Edius on one system drive and Avid Media Composer on a second system drive making my system a dual boot system, as I noted some problems when trying to use Edius say 5.51 or older with Media Composer 6.5 or older but now I am trying to get away from a dual boot system and was hoping their might be someone out there who has tried Edius 6.08 with Media Composer 7 and if so, will the both perform well on the same hard drive. In the past the most noted issue I saw was you lost the export options in Edius, you could select export but then the exporter would show no export selections.

[shueardm]

Hi,
In the past I have always kept Edius on one system drive and Avid Media Composer on a second system drive making my system a dual boot system, as I noted some problems when trying to use Edius say 5.51 or older with Media Composer 6.5 or older but now I am trying to get away from a dual boot system and was hoping their might be someone out there who has tried Edius 6.08 with Media Composer 7 and if so, will the both perform well on the same hard drive. In the past the most noted issue I saw was you lost the export options in Edius, you could select export but then the exporter would show no export selections.

I have seen this long time ago. Wasn't it a Quicktime thing? When it happened to me it certainly wasn't because of Media Composer.

[David Clarke]

I have had versions of Media Composer on the same system as EDIUS for ages with no problems. Currently running EDIUS 7 & Media Composer 7 on the same machine. Like shueardm any problem would be caused by the version of Quicktime I would think. MC7 needs the latest (7.7.4 I think). I know EDIUS 7 is happy with that and pretty sure EDIUS 6.08 will be as well.

The only issue is the MC7 will turn off desktop composition when it goes into the program and if you have EDIUS open at the same time then it would make EDIUS crash. On my EDIUS 7/MC7 system I have a Blackmagic card as well which both programs try to use at the same time, if you have them both open at the same time, which causes problems, but since EDIUS 6 does not use Blackmagic cards this should not be a problem for you either.

[vish1]

Hi David,

At last I have seen someone that runs MC and Edius on the same machine. I came from MC6 to Edius 6.5 and I must say that I prefer Edius hands down and these are the main reasons.

1. Ama (Avid is still struggling to get it right)
2. I am forced to transcode to the Avid Codec and when I export to TAW5, I have to re-transcode from the Avid codec to BDM standards. This is my biggest complain with MC on a PC. It is s l o w compared to Edius 6.5.

I have posted on the MC forum, but sadly my posts are quickly moved to the second page without any replies.

Dear David your thoughts on MC.

Thank you

Vish Maharaj

[David Clarke]

I actually think EDIUS and Avid are both very good, although I prefer EDIUS.

I wrote a comparison of EDIUS, Avid and Premiere which you can see on my website:

http://www.dvc.uk.com/acatalog/Edius_Premiere_Pro.html

Avid does have other advantage over EDIUS, but is not as good at realtime as EDIUS and not as good at handling footage like AVCHD.

[j king]

Thank You

Thank you for all your input, I have been using Edius from V3 on and before that Let's Edit and Media Composer for longer, but every time I put both programs on the same drive, I had not problems in editing except for exporting in Edius using the print to file option, this is where the problem starts. In the exporter window their is no export codecs to choose from. The window is blank, this I seen in both V5 and V5.51 and have not tried it in V6.08, I currently stuck using 6.08 as newer version of Edius do not have the drivers for the HDBX 1000.
From what I am reading now is that I must be the only one having this issue.
My clips are from either a Sony PMW-500 or the Sony PMW-EX3 shot in HD one at 50Mbps and one at 35Mbps (and some captured straight into Edius using a HDBX-1000 or without the HDBX Box and then straight into Edius using a different RX-E1 card that has HD SDI connection) and have no issues with Edius seeing the clips and as noted by Vish Media Composer always a pain in the A.. by having to bring in as an AMA being the best work flow for me for the Sony Mp4 clips.
So I will give this another try and got with both on the same drive and hope for the best or I might just get away from Media Composer for good and just go with Edius as I too much prefer Edius over MC sense goting to the Sony camcorders.
Again, Thank you for all the input.

[David Clarke]

The export in which program has no codecs? Avid or EDIUS?

I have not tried using EDIUS 5 and MC7, but they would want different versions of Quicktime which may be an issue. 6.08 and MC7 would be closer.

[j king]

Edius

Edius 5.51 was the program I was using and Media Composer 6.02 was installed on the same drive but not open and the file I was working was captured in Edius, I tried to export from Edius and got the exporter window but no choices were there as for exporting.
I have had the same issue with Media Composer 5.5 and 5 with Edius 5.10 also.
I tried Avid support and forum with no luck as expected. But as always Grass Valley support was great and noted they had seen issues also but did not say if it was this one, so I went to a dual boot drive.
As for quicktime, I always have setup for auto updates. I don't use quicktime export codecs in Edius.
I will most likely if the same problem is still there get away from MC completely.

[antonsvideo]

can you make sure nothing at all is typed in the search box at the bottom right of the EDIUS 5 exporter window, otherwise all export presets will be hiding

[j king]

Thank You

I currently don't have both programs on the same system drive so I can not check the exporter in Edius as Media Composer 7 is on the other drive.
The more I think about it, I believe I will just stick with Edius and Premiere Pro CC and put Media Composer on the shelf, sense going to the Sony's Media Composer is a pain in the a..
I enjoy Edius a lot more the MC, and would like to thank everyone who has provide their input.

Jeff