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  • Marc44
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 655

    Chroma Key + Layouter

    I shoot a speaker on green screen to put the result on a choir (speaker on left frame).
    No problem with Chroma key in Edius.
    Now, I have to place the speaker on the right.
    Then I use the layouter to place her on the right.
    But, a black shape appears on the left (= no video).
    I try different ways to delete this shape without effect.



    Marc
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  • GrassValley_PS
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    • Oct 2009
    • 5959

    #2
    Use Enable rectangle in the Chromakey.
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    • vortigern
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 658

      #3
      Type in Antonsvideo in your browser. Go to digital editing he has a tip there that will show you how.
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      • Marc44
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 655

        #4
        Originally posted by vortigern
        Type in Antonsvideo in your browser. Go to digital editing he has a tip there that will show you how.
        OK, thanks, I found it , here : Chroma-key and alpha matte

        It's the solution
        (rectangle in CK doesn't do the job).

        Marc
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        Edius in France

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        • Jerry
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 13930

          #5
          Here is a very recent thread about the same thing:


          And the rectangle Will do the job!
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          • antonsvideo
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 27828

            #6
            yes, first move the clip, then perform chroma key and enable rectangle

            do not do chroma key first and then layouter
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            • antonsvideo
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 27828

              #7
              Originally posted by Marc44
              OK, thanks, I found it , here : Chroma-key and alpha matte

              It's the solution
              (rectangle in CK doesn't do the job).

              Marc

              no need for this awkward workaround at all, see my other answer
              Anton Strauss
              Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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              • Marc44
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 655

                #8
                Originally posted by antonsvideo
                yes, first move the clip, then perform chroma key and enable rectangle
                do not do chroma key first and then layouter
                OK , with this worflow , the effect is more simple than alpha matte and the result is fine.
                And the rectangle does the job, really :-)
                Thanks to all.
                (in this chroma key example, Robuskey is not so good than Edius).

                Marc
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                • antonsvideo
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 27828

                  #9
                  Robuskey is 10x better in every way, it is a filter

                  so you can apply the key and then move it around with the layouter, just make sure you drag the layouter below Robuskey in the info palette
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                  Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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                  • Jerry
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 13930

                    #10
                    There is no way that the Edius chromakeyer is better, at anything, than Robuskey.
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