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    Good afternoon, when i import high res images 10Mp, and i add motion with the layouter, the movement is very jittering. i though it was only on the preview, but when i print to file the motion remain jittering.
    the problem was solved when i lowered the resolution from Photoshop.
    does anybody know if this is normal?
    thanks

  • #2
    what is your project setting?

    if SD, any large still animated will look terrible

    in such a case, you could use Imaginate2
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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    • #3
      If your Project is "Progressive" any movement using Layouter will be jittery, that is the nature of progressive
      For a smooth movement change to "Interlaced" with the correct field order
      DVD and Bluray is always upper field first
      Barry
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      • #4
        Not true Barry.... We use layouter with pan and zoom in 25p projects without issue on stills. We also shoot and edit large amounts of 25p and 24p footage without issues. Destination web desktop and cinema.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by NakedEye View Post
          Not true Barry.... We use layouter with pan and zoom in 25p projects without issue on stills. We also shoot and edit large amounts of 25p and 24p footage without issues. Destination web desktop and cinema.
          Correct for all three, but how about bluray on a TV unless set to higher refresh rate?
          Cinema has higher refresh rate the same as film showing each frame upto 7 times to fool the eye.

          Barry
          Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
          GB GA-X58A-UD3R MB, i7 [email protected], 12G 1600mhz Mem, Samsung EVO-250G SSD, 3x2T RAID, GTX 970W OC, 2x24 inch LG Monitors
          Canon XH-A1/ Canon HF-G30, GoPro Hero3 Black, Edit @1920 50p HQ preset

          https://vimeo.com/user2157719/videos
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          • #6
            A 24p movie on Blu-ray looks just fine if the TV has true 24p playback normally cinema mode or the like. I am not talking 200Hz or higher with motion smoothing etc which simply makes the movie look like video.
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            • #7
              Anton, My project is 720x576 50i.
              By the way, i used Imaginate and it;s really cool.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by panagrap View Post
                Anton, My project is 720x576 50i.
                By the way, i used Imaginate and it;s really cool.
                yes, the layouter is only usefull for animating large res stills when the project setting is HD

                for SD, Imaginate2 is the only choice
                Anton Strauss
                Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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                • #9
                  I don't understand, high rez pict manipulate in Layout tool is butter smooth for me in HD or SD timeline.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Khoi Pham View Post
                    I don't understand, high rez pict manipulate in Layout tool is butter smooth for me in HD or SD timeline.
                    place a 16 megapixel still with detail in SD interlaced timeline and then do a slow move with the layouter, then play the timeline

                    then vomit
                    Anton Strauss
                    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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                    • #11
                      This is 21 megapixel still on SD 720X480 59.91 timeline upper field, encode at 2000kbps
                      https://vimeo.com/67481511
                      Let it buffered before you play or it might stutter from internet connection or if you like I can send you the mp4 file, it is very smooth for me.
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                      • #12
                        that is a progressive file with strange width and height and 750 bitrate

                        can you upload a DV avi of the same section to a file sharing provider

                        you need to view this via GV hardware connected to TV, I bet you will vomit

                        PC screens with progressive settings hide the problem
                        Attached Files
                        Anton Strauss
                        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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                        • #13
                          I don't normally load SD video on Vimeo so I don't know what they are doing to it, I just did that to show you that they are smooth in SD, but when I made DVD and watch it on a either tube tv or progressive tv they all come out smooth, never had any problem, I use Hand Brake to encode to mp4 and so I made a uncompressed avi so it can see it, didn't use dv avi. I would be the first to say something if it would look that bad.
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                          • #14
                            I don't use DV either

                            all I am saying is that if I do a high res still animation with the layouter in a 1920x1080 50i project, the result looks great

                            if I then switch that project to SD 720x576 16:9, the result looks so bad you need to close your eyes

                            the reason for switching to SD is to get the benefit of Lanczos3 which is not available if you export direct from HD timeline to SD file
                            Anton Strauss
                            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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