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  • How to make HD-SD Downconverter Edius 6.5

    Hello I am not clear how to make HD-SD downconverter in EDIUS 6.5 for full use of the new tool lanczos 3.
    Do I have to export the whole project in HD and then upload the resulting file in a new project Hd SD and re-export to sd (dvd pal)?
    or
    I can change the project from HD to SD directly on the timeline and export to SD (dvd pal)?
    My project is 1920x1080 25p with AVCDHD files from Panasonic AG-AC 160.

    I hope your help so we can see the light at the end of the tunnel, I have a paper due on Thursday and I know how to export to a good result.
    Thanks and regards.

  • #2
    If you just change your project setting to from HD to SD then Lancoz3 if set in the project kicks in. If the project remains HD apparently it doesnt
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    • #3
      You can go to Anton's site. He has a graphical look at how to do it. It is very simple.

      http://www.videoproductions.com.au/h...downscale.html
      Jerry
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      • #4
        Looked through the manual re lanczos but nothing showed up.
        Google returned the following. Looks OK.

        http://www.videoproductions.com.au/h...downscale.html

        Best of luck with Thursday deadline.

        Edit: Sorry Jerry post crossed
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        • #5
          I tried to find reference to Lancoz3 but failed
          Its under resampling method in project settings
          System Asus WS Z390 Pro MB, CPU i9 9900K, 32gb 3000mhz Ram, EVGA GTX1070TI, BM IP4K Win 10, BD Burner 1 Evo 840 and 4 Hotswap caddies
          Plugins Vistitle 2.8, TP7, NB TFX5
          Monitors Samsung 32 inch tv as main 1 LG M2350D,1 D2343 1 DM2350D as output to (3D) IP4K, PXW X70,Canon FX400

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          • #6
            This addresses the layouter uses more than down sampling to SD. They are related but not exactly.
            Anton's tutorial is the document from which to derive a direction.
            Jerry
            Six Gill DV
            www.sgdvtutorials.com
            If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

            Vistitle YouTube Channel
            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

            Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
            http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


            Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
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            • #7
              Ok, thank you very much, I'll keep doing some research, greetings.

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              • #8
                I explain how I did for my friend helped Caminostereo:
                Switch directly from the same project 50i HD to SD 16:9, activate lanczos (high quality), then export to mpeg (dvd pal), with some adjustments I advised and ready ... today I'm going to burn the DVD and compare the quality.
                Greetings.

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                • #9
                  If you change the project setting make sure you look through the video and check everything scales. As Anton says titles on title tracks do not scale, but other things do not scale as well. If you use the Chromakey filter and add a rectangle, this does not scale for example, so you must check everything.

                  Another alternative is when in the HD project, choose render and add to timeline which will "bake in" all the effects. Then change the project setting to SD, then export. Using this method you still cannot use title tracks, titles must be on video tracks.

                  BTW you may want lanczos on all the time. It is not just useful for scaling HD to SD, it will scale any picture in picture effects, stabilisers etc better as well. It will take more CPU power so you will get less realtime feedback, but you get better quality results on anything that needs scaling. This is why it is in the project settings and the layouter. You can either set it for everything (project) or per clip (layouter).
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                  • #10
                    Just interested in your comments on tiles to T Tracks
                    I always put them on T track to get the default transition fade
                    Switching a 1440 project down to 720*576 project doesnt affect the titles at all. This must be because i use Vistitle which i notice chages the size in the bin. but if i use Quicktitler then they do need rezising
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                    Plugins Vistitle 2.8, TP7, NB TFX5
                    Monitors Samsung 32 inch tv as main 1 LG M2350D,1 D2343 1 DM2350D as output to (3D) IP4K, PXW X70,Canon FX400

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                    • #11
                      You are right about Vistitle. I had not noticed that before - was it in version 1? I think we are both using version 2 now. If you actually look at the properties of the title it is changing size automatically when you change the project dimension. Another good reason to get Vistitle.

                      The reason you cannot use title tracks when using the "render and add to timeline" method is that after you render and add to timeline, titles on title tracks are still on top of the video you rendered, where as everything on video tracks is obscured by the file you rendered.

                      Like you I actually like to use title tracks - mainly because with one button click you get a title plus a dissolve at the start and end automatically.
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                      • #12
                        I think it was also in V1. I hardly ever use the render to timeline and never when titles are involved. I like the lights in Vistitle 2 which you can animate
                        System Asus WS Z390 Pro MB, CPU i9 9900K, 32gb 3000mhz Ram, EVGA GTX1070TI, BM IP4K Win 10, BD Burner 1 Evo 840 and 4 Hotswap caddies
                        Plugins Vistitle 2.8, TP7, NB TFX5
                        Monitors Samsung 32 inch tv as main 1 LG M2350D,1 D2343 1 DM2350D as output to (3D) IP4K, PXW X70,Canon FX400

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