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  • Motion tracking and stabilization

    hi everyone!

    I always found what I'm looking for, on the forum but not this time.
    I cannot find a function or a plug in for "motion tracking and stabilization"
    in Edius 4. I tried Boris 9 but it moves the whole picture so I can see the edges, and it's not OK.
    Any advice???

    Thanks a lot!!!
    Robaj

  • #2
    when I use borisFX9 for motion tracking, I zoom in a bit then I don't see the edges during stabilization
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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    • #3
      Hi,

      I don't know of this is what you mean?
      http://www.prodad.de/gb/mercalli_std_details.html

      It is brand new, and works as a plug-inn from Edius 4.x.
      I saw it on the German forum.

      you can download a free trail and give it a try.

      Ton
      Edius 7.31/ Vistitle / Vitascene Gigabyte GA-X48 DQ6 / MSI GTX 460 1Gb/Intel Q9450 2.66Ghz/Corsair TWIN2X 4GB DDR2 800Mhz/Coolermaster M620/1x SSD OCZ Vertex4 128Gb/1x 150Gb Raptor/ 1x WD 250Gb Sata II / 1x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 750Gb

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      • #4
        That looks very interesting. The examples were quite dramatic. I might try this demo.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TonR View Post
          Hi,

          I don't know of this is what you mean?
          http://www.prodad.de/gb/mercalli_std_details.html

          It is brand new, and works as a plug-inn from Edius 4.x.
          I saw it on the German forum.

          you can download a free trail and give it a try.

          Ton
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          • #6
            Motion Tracking & Stabilization

            Originally posted by TonR View Post
            Hi,

            I don't know of this is what you mean?
            http://www.prodad.de/gb/mercalli_std_details.html

            It is brand new, and works as a plug-inn from Edius 4.x.
            I saw it on the German forum.

            you can download a free trail and give it a try.

            Ton
            Looks impressive. How much rendering is there involved? How long would it take for a one minute clip?

            Ted

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            • #7
              I have Boris 9 and it is TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SLOW any thing is faster than Boris :)

              I have ProDad's Heroglyph than I've used with SD projects for creating lined mapping trails and it's all RT.

              I going to order Mercalli Expert.

              Thanks Ton!

              ...Angelo
              Canopus/GV: DVStorm2 w/component-out board, ADVC300, Edius 4.61, ProCoder 3.05, Imaginate2
              System: MSI B75A-G43 (v2.0), i7-3770K, 4GB, HD6850, Pyro1394 pci-e, 6 Disks 2.4TB non-raid, Win7-32bit, Dell 24" & 19" LCD

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              • #8
                Motion tracking is a manual process involving the Region filter and setting a motion path for it.

                Picture stabilization can be done using 3D P-in-P, but it's very tedious and I recommend using a different tool that has such capability if it's anything more than one or two shakes.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mrobaj
                  Hi,

                  Does somebody knows how to make motion tracking and picture stabilization in Edius 4?

                  Thanks!!!

                  Check this out:

                  http://www.prodad.de/gb/mercalli_std_details.html

                  With motion tracking, I wouldn't use Edius. There are no tools for it. I use AE. Boris does it too.

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                  • #10
                    I DL the trial version and it took about 15 seconds to render a 1 minute clip. It worked pretty well. Some of the motion areas took a slight degradation hit but over all it made some unusable clips usable. I haven't really played with it that much, but it seems to be a worthwhile buy if it can save a few clips here and there.

                    BTW the install went very quickly and smoothly.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by COMPLETE VIDEO IMAGE View Post
                      Looks impressive. How much rendering is there involved? How long would it take for a one minute clip?

                      Ted
                      I just bought Mercall Expert waiting for the unlock code to remove the BIG "X" from the image but in the mean time I did 2 tests:

                      HQ 1440x1080 footage in a OHCI HD 1440x1080 timeline and it calculating 30fps with the Quad-Core all 4 cores pegged at +97%! This a first with Edius + Quad-Core +97% usage.

                      HQ 1280x720 footage in a OHCI HD 1280x720 timeline, calculating at 85fps with Quad-Core at +95%!

                      Mercalli Expert has a bunch of presets it does an excellent job of removing shakes.

                      ...Angelo
                      Canopus/GV: DVStorm2 w/component-out board, ADVC300, Edius 4.61, ProCoder 3.05, Imaginate2
                      System: MSI B75A-G43 (v2.0), i7-3770K, 4GB, HD6850, Pyro1394 pci-e, 6 Disks 2.4TB non-raid, Win7-32bit, Dell 24" & 19" LCD

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                      • #12
                        Are you using the plugin from inside Edius, or are you preprocessing the video?

                        I watched a couple of the samples on the site and noticed some pretty bad artifacts at the frame edges at times, and I don't believe it was part of the WMV encoding. Have you run into this during your tests?

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                        • #13
                          I dl'ed the demo with the big red X...it works from within Edius as a filter. DV files were realtime for me after analyzing.

                          I didn't like the results that much, probably because I did a quick test using the light version.

                          Give the trial a try.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by THoff View Post
                            Are you using the plugin from inside Edius, or are you preprocessing the video?

                            I watched a couple of the samples on the site and noticed some pretty bad artifacts at the frame edges at times, and I don't believe it was part of the WMV encoding. Have you run into this during your tests?
                            Looking at my external monitor with the DVStorm I don't see any artifacts. I do notice that image is softer with a big "X", haven't received my unlocking code to see if it fixes it. I have emailed support about it. I've played around with the settings to get the "right" image control and IMO it does a very good job, it's the softness I don't like.

                            ...Angelo
                            Canopus/GV: DVStorm2 w/component-out board, ADVC300, Edius 4.61, ProCoder 3.05, Imaginate2
                            System: MSI B75A-G43 (v2.0), i7-3770K, 4GB, HD6850, Pyro1394 pci-e, 6 Disks 2.4TB non-raid, Win7-32bit, Dell 24" & 19" LCD

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                            • #15
                              It's softer cause it's zoomed up slightly. I wonder how a picture zoomed up to the same extent with the Edius layout tool compares to the equivalent stabilised output of this program. After Effects has a stabilisor as well. I wonder how they compare?

                              The other thing is how does it stabilise (say HDV) footage shot in HD for output in SD. Assuming the motion isn't too bad presumably you shouln't be able to pick it?

                              Jim

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