Recommended mpeg workflow?

[antonsvideo]

many times I am asked to re-edit an existing DVD

so, I demux to elementary streams and then load to Edius bin, this causes edius to crash in 8 out of 10 cases, see error below

so, I end up capturing from DVD player using analogue component and this works fine, what do you do?




Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 5/9/2007
Time: 14:29:04 PM
User: N/A
Computer: EDIUS4
Description:
Faulting application edius.exe, version 4.50.0.46, faulting module mpstcore.dll, version 2.6.0.3, fault address 0x00002735.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
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0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 65 64 69 ure edi
0018: 75 73 2e 65 78 65 20 34 us.exe 4
0020: 2e 35 30 2e 30 2e 34 36 .50.0.46
0028: 20 69 6e 20 6d 70 73 74 in mpst
0030: 63 6f 72 65 2e 64 6c 6c core.dll
0038: 20 32 2e 36 2e 30 2e 33 2.6.0.3
0040: 20 61 74 20 6f 66 66 73 at offs
0048: 65 74 20 30 30 30 30 32 et 00002
0050: 37 33 35 0d 0a 735..

[Case]

I've been using a little freeware program for quite a while called DVD2AVI. It rips DVDs to avi format (using Canopus codec or others you choose) and a .wav file (or others you choose).

It produces excellent results that work well with Canopus edit products. Plus, it gives you an avi which is a pleasure to edit. You might give it a try.

[antonsvideo]

how long does it take to convert a 1 hour DVD to Canopus avi?

[tuyle]

Anton,
I used DISCcapture (.m2p file) and bring it to the timeline to edit without any problem (3 dvds last couple days).

[antonsvideo]

I will try DISCcapture later today and report back

[skier-hughes]

I've used dvd decryptor, which is what I think you recommended to me, and I've done 17 dvds the last few weeks without a single hitch. They've just sent me another 5 to do so I hope this hasn't jinxed it now, because they've got hundreds more for me to work on as and when they can afford it.

Though I haven't done any since the 4.5 upgrade....

now I'm really worried......

[antonsvideo]

the DVD's in question are NTSC and I am in an NTSC project

it is possible that the people who made the DVD did something wrong that causes Edius to have spasm attacks

[skier-hughes]

Mine are all recorded on a dvd recorder, and sent to a museum for archiving - which is great, because nobody can play them, though they hadn't checked until I was asked to do some work on a copy of one of the dvds for another guy!!!!

Mine are all PAL, PAL project.

[antonsvideo]

ok, to my surprise, Diskcapture worked and I did not get a crash

what I noticed is that diskcapture captures a program stream, whereas I was feeding Edius elementary streams

I will do some further testing now to see what Edius dislikes about these elementary stream files, I will load all video only, and if no crash, will load all audio only

[antonsvideo]

sorry I take back what I said, it just crashed during DiskCapture

http://www.videoproductions.com.au/edius45/disk-capture-crash.gif

I will stick with analogue component capture, works 100% every time

[gapmedia]

I've used Disk Capture successfully quite a few times.
However, I've found Edius isn't too happy with the AC3 files that are in the program files ripped from most DVD's. If I convert these to 48k WAV's and resync on the timeline everything seems to go smoothly.

[mattmatt]

Analogue component capture is all great if you have a spare 2hrs to capture it (wedding) or, you have a spare 2.5hrs to encode it (to .avi).

So what's the point of DiscCapture?

I find, that I can just copy the vobs from the disc, import them straight in and work away. It's a bit laggy and crashes every now and then, but i noticed that without audio it doesn't crash nearly as often (i.e. disabling the audio track).

So again, what's the point of DiscCapture?

Meh.....it doesn't really bother me, but if there is an advantage of using it, I will :)

[mattmatt]

Ahah!!!! The audio!!! AC3!!! Thanks :)

[antonsvideo]

so far, my quickest and most reliable tool is Tmpeg 4 Xpress

a 1 hour DVD takes 42 minutes to convert to Canopus DV.avi

as long as Tmpeg is installed on the same PC as Edius, it can see and use all Canopus codecs including HQ and Lossless

I also tried the same with ProCoder3 and it also worked fine, but it took 51 minutes to convert the same 1 hour disk

as far as DiscCapture goes, it usually works on all DVD's that I created and fails mostly on DVD's created by other people, who knows, they may have made bad disks

but then again, why do ProCoder3 and Tmpeg work fine and not crash?????

btw, Edius 4.5 is meant to be ac3 compatible

[Aristotelis]

I always use disc capture to copy the disc to my hard drive and then canopus procoder express to convert the m2p file to DV AVI...Sometimes (I don't know why) it is nesesary to uncheck the 'use timestamp' feature in order to convert successfully...

I skip the procoder step when there is no ac3 audio...