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    Hi- I shoot and edit mostly in hdv 720p. I prefer to keep the projects native, and generally export to 720p wmv (as well as to dvd for some projects).
    Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a 720 project setting for the HDStorm. This means I can't monitor in HD as I work, or show people the project in HD straight from the timeline.
    Where I need to do so, I use a 1080p project setting, and the pictures look ok, though as they are up-scaled on the fly, I'm not 100% confident of the video quality. But the bigger problem is that all titles and graphics are the wrong size and in the wrong place.
    Am I missing some way to output 720p on the HDStorm? I'd love to hear from anyone else using HDStorm and 720p- what workflow do you use- are there some easy work-arounds I'm missing?
    Cheers- Rob
    Work: Edius 7.20.437 on HP Z220 workstation; Edius 6.08 on i7 running Win 7 64 bit 6 GB RAM. Neo 2.0 on a Lenovo T61. JVC GY-HD201 and GY-HD110.
    Home: Canon HV20 and Panasonic GH1 (hacked); Neo 3.01 on HP elitebook 8440p i7 and Neo 1 on homemade dualcore desktop.

  • #2
    Storm HD does have 1280X720 59P output, even my old NX does.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Khoi Pham View Post
      Storm HD does have 1280X720 59P output, even my old NX does.
      Cool. Do you need a monitor that can handle that frame-rate, or will it play out on pretty much anything? (Not much use to me, as I'm PAL. 50p might work. Maybe it's an option when starting projects that I've missed- and it's just that I can't change back?)
      Work: Edius 7.20.437 on HP Z220 workstation; Edius 6.08 on i7 running Win 7 64 bit 6 GB RAM. Neo 2.0 on a Lenovo T61. JVC GY-HD201 and GY-HD110.
      Home: Canon HV20 and Panasonic GH1 (hacked); Neo 3.01 on HP elitebook 8440p i7 and Neo 1 on homemade dualcore desktop.

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      • #4
        They still sell 1280X720 HDTV to I'm sure you can get one, I use a old Dell 2405 and it has 1:1 pixel and so when I output 720, it won't upscale to 1080, the picture is just smaller and won't fit the whole screen, or I can set it to upscale to 1080, as far as Edius, all I have to do was to change project settings, maybe you need to create a preset first.
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        • #5
          Hi Rob... our old HDStorm supported 1280x720/50P with compatable monitor... I cant recall if it had 1280x720/25P output though...
          The specs we have dont show 720/25P as an option and I just noticed HDStorm has been removed from the GV website so no help there... hopefully another user can chime in. Rob I wonder if you can Edit in a 50p timeline and switch back to 25p for export.

          Best
          Dave
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          • #6
            Thanks, I'm going to try that. I've been starting with the OHCI HD setting, since I might as well cut the native m2t files, and I have a nice audio set-up for that. (I can probably route the audio back out the monitor to the amp. HDMI seems to cut other audio output)
            But once I start an OHCI project, I can't seem to change to a 720 HDstorm setting (1080 output works fine). I'll try the Storm 720 settings for the next project, and see what happens. Cheers!
            Work: Edius 7.20.437 on HP Z220 workstation; Edius 6.08 on i7 running Win 7 64 bit 6 GB RAM. Neo 2.0 on a Lenovo T61. JVC GY-HD201 and GY-HD110.
            Home: Canon HV20 and Panasonic GH1 (hacked); Neo 3.01 on HP elitebook 8440p i7 and Neo 1 on homemade dualcore desktop.

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            • #7
              Hi Rob

              You don't have to use the HDMI audio although you could... HDStorm has an analog 3.5mm jack onboard so you could rout this as you do for your OHCI audio.... you can still cut your native .m2t files in the HDStorm project preset just as you do currently and they will go out to preview.

              Best
              Dave.
              Main Editor - Edius 8.53 AdobeCC Mini Monitor 4K Intel X99P SLI Intel Core i7 6800K CPU Gigabyte GTX980 SanDisk Ultra Video SSD 1XINTEL System SSD 16GB Kingston DDR4 2400 RAM VisTitle 2.8 Onboard Sound 10GBE LAN WIN10Pro 64bit

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              • #8
                Also when you use an OHCI preset you are not using the Hdstorm.
                Steve

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GrassValley_SL View Post
                  Also when you use an OHCI preset you are not using the Hdstorm.
                  Yeah, I did work that out :) The 720p 50 project seems to be working ok for 720 25p. But while they play at the correct speed on the timeline, in properties it shows all the files as 50p. I'm a little worried it will do something funny on output (I've had that before, when some files were mis-read as 50p, when they were not). I'll try exporting something before I go into the full edit.
                  Work: Edius 7.20.437 on HP Z220 workstation; Edius 6.08 on i7 running Win 7 64 bit 6 GB RAM. Neo 2.0 on a Lenovo T61. JVC GY-HD201 and GY-HD110.
                  Home: Canon HV20 and Panasonic GH1 (hacked); Neo 3.01 on HP elitebook 8440p i7 and Neo 1 on homemade dualcore desktop.

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                  • #10
                    Hi Rob... clips should show as 25p if they are 25p so you dont want Edius to change this so check the Automatic Correction setting in user settings and remove the check mark from "Adjust framerate when loading clip" and see how that works for you.... also I would switch back to 25p project before export of any kind.... you just want to use the preset for monitoring if I understand you correctly.

                    Best
                    Dave.
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                    • #11
                      I'll definitely try checking the box. Changing back to a 25p OHCI project setting did make all the clips play half-speed...
                      (I wish there was a 720 25p setting. I shot a project at those settings on a JVC HM100 I had for a few days- and have a mate who uses it on a panasonic HVX200. Nice to edit, great for youtube, and still looks good enough blown up to 1080 or shown as 720 on a big-screen tv. But it seems to be dying out as folks favour 1080 flavours.)
                      Work: Edius 7.20.437 on HP Z220 workstation; Edius 6.08 on i7 running Win 7 64 bit 6 GB RAM. Neo 2.0 on a Lenovo T61. JVC GY-HD201 and GY-HD110.
                      Home: Canon HV20 and Panasonic GH1 (hacked); Neo 3.01 on HP elitebook 8440p i7 and Neo 1 on homemade dualcore desktop.

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