Custom Transition Problem

[beardedboss]

How can I make a custom transition of
Dissolve 12 frames
Audio Cross Fade 4 frames

When I try to make one it always makes it equal
12 frames for both.

I have a separate 4 frame Audio Cross Fade that I made, which is great!
But when need to add a Dissolve of 12 frames onto the Video I can't seem to do it.
I am working with VA Tracks.
EDIUS 6.06

[antonsvideo]

right click any transition in effects palette, duration, transition 12, then duration, crossfade 4

drag transition or Ctrl+P to apply

then if you need 1 sec dissolve with 1 sec crossfade, apply with Alt+1
then if you need 2 sec dissolve with 2 sec crossfade, apply with Alt+2
then if you need 3 sec dissolve with 3 sec crossfade, apply with Alt+3
then if you need 4 sec dissolve with 4 sec crossfade, apply with Alt+4

[beardedboss]

I tried this and it still goes to even on each in this case 12/12
and not 12/4. This is with the extend clips off so that it cuts in your footage.
What I am looking for is to do a custom preset of 12/4 I can drag over to a set of clips or even just one of 2 by lasso ing.

Try a test with clips that have no heads or tails, do the transition settting switch off extend clips (I have a button on the timeline area) then drag or Ctrl P the transition over and note how it does 12/12 or in short even dissolve and xfade. to do what I want I have to go back in there manually alt clicking and dragging the xfade from 12 to 4 frames (shortening it manually) each time on each clip

[beardedboss]

Is there a way around this?
I tried also to put video on seperate v and a tracks
only this time it wont let me add any audio crossfade at all even on it's own,

[antonsvideo]

see if the bottom item on the following EDIUS keyboard shortcut page helps

http://www.videoproductions.com.au/html/keyboard-shortcuts.html

[Rusty]

Is there a way around this?
I tried also to put video on seperate v and a tracks
only this time it wont let me add any audio crossfade at all even on it's own,

In this instance, I'd recommend practice with Extend Clips. It should work without a hitch.

[beardedboss]

Still having probs with this can this be noted to be fixed in next release?

With Extend clips off, then is should be possilbe to drag a custom designed transition of different lengths to one of more clips. whether they be on a VA Track or linked V1 A1.

On the VA Track it always gives you even video and audio crossfades and on the V1 A1 it wont allow you do even add the transition.

[antonsvideo]

I think this is impossible

because lets assume the audio xfade is 1 sec and the video trans is 2 sec

to keep the clips fully extended (as per your setting) the right clip needs to move one second to the left to allow the xfade and at the same time it would need to move 2 seconds to the left in order to allow adding the transition

so if the developers allow this, the audio and video track will need to be unlocked and your audio video sync will be out by 1 second from the transition onwards

do I make sense? if not, I will make a drawing

[beardedboss]

Yes but what I am doing is having 2 clips butted slide by slide, that have no headers or tails, to enable a transition, I click off extend clips
I can the click in between and do default transition lets say it is 1 sec and 1 sec dissolve ok the defaulty setting.
Files are PAL HDV 50i converted to Canopus HQ Fine AVI

EDIUS Does this and I lose 12.5 frames from the left clip and 12.5 from the right clip which is fine. I can the go in ALT Click the Audio Transition with the Mouse and then drag each side of the audio crossfade to shorten it to anything from 12.5 frames a side to 1. In my case I want to create an Audio Crossfade of jus 4 frames, loosing 2 frames from each side of the clip.
I am doing this to soften the edges of each audio to smooth things over.

Anton, can you recommend a good free Video Capture program that I can install on my edit PC that I use to make a demo of what I am talking about, I want to install a good one that wont mess up as that machine is just for editing and min bloat, if you know what I mean, though I would like to be able to make so Captures at times.

[antonsvideo]

in your case, you really need to do AB type editing, you will have precise control over everything

http://www.videoproductions.com.au/edius6/keyer-fades-transitions.png

I tested your issue in EDIUS5 and it acts the same, so this has always been like that

when extend is off, and crossfade is set to shorter than transition, always the shorter duration will be used