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    No I am editing a 2 hours long documentary movie with a lot of materials /appx. 100 hours on several timelines/. I have updated to 6.06 and reduce time to save for 25 percent. But it takes 20 second every 20 minutes period I have set because a problem with EOS files, they are unstable. I have post this thread without fix until today - http://forum.grassvalley.com/forum/s...d.php?t=23981/. Is here any chance to speed up saving. Maybe EZP files are packed by using something like winzip, because when I have tried to archive this ezp file, it looks like the zip file already. There is only very small diference between the zipped /2.63MB/ or unziped ezp /2.68/ file. I think the Edius will archive ezp during save procces and this can slow saving. Maybe not, but Final Cut doesnt do it, have a very big /100 Mb or more/ files, which you can archive to send via e-mail afterwards. FinalCUT is much more faster for big projects.
    Miro Remo
    www.miroremo.com

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  • #2
    How fast is the mac that is running fcp?
    From your settings you
    are running a system that is below the minimum requirements
    for E6.
    I am running a core 2 quad as well. But I have a fast subsystem raid
    and 8 gigs of ram. Windows 7 has been tweaked for
    performance and My performance is pretty decent with a qx 9650
    Overclocked from 3.0 to 3.61.
    Jerry
    Six Gill DV
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    • #3
      are you using lots of stills that require Quicktime? that would cause it, try use tga instead

      are you using lots of video clips that are mp4 or any other form that uses Quicktime, if so that could also cause it, try Canopus HQ clips
      Anton Strauss
      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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      • #4
        I can confirm that with a 1000 mp4 clips or more the save times are a bit long, this however is almost instant with the same amount of clips in HQ format.

        Also loading a project with a large amount of mp4 clips in the bin will take a minute or more on my machine.
        Tony D.

        EDIUS WG 9.54 / MATROX MXO2 LE / WIN10 Pro WS / LENOVO P71 Workstation laptop / XEON E3-1535M v6 / nVidia QUADRO P3000 6GB / Toshiba M.2 NVMe 512GB / 2x Samsung 860 EVO 4TB / 32GB ECC RAM.
        EDIUS WG 8.53 / HDRX-E1 + HDBX-1000H / WIN10 Pro / DUAL XEON X5470 / SUPERMICRO X7DWA-N / SUPERMICRO SUPERCHASIS SC745TQ-920B / INTEL 520 SSD 240GB / WD CAVIAR BLACK 4TB (many) / 32GB ECC RAM / GTX 770 4GB / 2x MOTU 896HD.
        wavearts / neatvideo / tmpgenc / hitfilm / imaginate / affinity

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        • #5
          I have MOV files and HQ files on timeline. Everything is ok when you cut the 26 minutes documentary with up to 10 hours of material. If the Edius say that they have the fastest system, the have to say only with teir HQ, not with other features. Edius is very good, but its open to the wide range of possibilities, but you dont have any information about the restriction in works of example MOV files, some still image AAF export. I want to have the stability in my performecne, stablity in work. Then is Edius pretty fast, but, with a 100 and more hours materials inside bin no. I have overclocked processor from Core2Quad from 2500 to 3500 Mhz and 6 GB RAM, and this project has over 4 TB in two SATA2 2TB single discs, system is on the next alone 500GB SATA HDD. How speed of save process depends on speed of coumputer. The 3,5GHZ QUADCORE isnt fast enough? Maybe not. I dont use the still images, I know about the problem with loading using this kind of media. This project starts about 3 minutes, save for 20 second. Mac is about 5 times faster in this case. The best solution will be the save in the background. I know about the problems in this case but future is about breaking impossible.
          Miro Remo
          www.miroremo.com

          1.DESKTOP: GIGABYTE x79 UD4, Intel Core i7 i3930k, 32 GB RAM, NVIDIA GTX 760, 14x internal HDD + mirrored backup, HD SPARK, Sound Blaster Audigy, LG DVD-RW, WINDOWS 10 x64

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          • #6
            the Mac is faster because it is native to MOV

            apple supplied a faulty version of quicktime to windows users and nearly every update has a fault

            this is why EDIUS has trouble with such files
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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            • #7
              Hi Anton....other than Targa files, what other files can be used that don't require quicktime, as I found out that sometimes edius just stays long to launch when I have a lot of stills, and sometimes, causes Edius to act up ..."not responding' for a short time, with a white border around its modules....this clears up after Edius launches fully....can be very annoying since this only started since I went to ver. 6....never happened with other versions....and I had all of them....started from storm...

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              • #8
                not 100% sure since I have been a tga user since NLE were invented, because tga is uncompressed and ideal for NLE, takes no processing horsepower
                Anton Strauss
                Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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                • #9
                  Hi Miro.

                  The speed of your system will not have much effect on the problem. You will find that the issue is caused by the media count, and to a lesser degree the complexity of the project, hence the EZP size. If you have a few thousand clips and the complexity of the EZP takes it up to around 20MB, this can take around 15 minutes.

                  The best thing for you to do is to slim down your project. Separate your project so that you have multiple projects with only one sequence in them. Then delete the media that you do not need for each new saved EZP/sequence. Now you should be left with EZPs that have only one sequence and only the media needed. Another good thing is to delete any media out of the bins that you know you will definitely not use. All this can be done by either consolidation or doing it manually. You can always re-import any associated sequences back together at the very end for run outs etc. when the load and save times don't get in the way too much.

                  This may not seem like the most convenient way of doing things, but it is the only way around your problem. Remember that all NLEs suffer similar problems with media count and complexity, maybe not to the same degree with some, but it's there. I think most of the problem is the program addressing all the files to make sure that they are all there in the right places with the right names, lengths, properties etc. and the complexity of the EZP itself. When dealing with large projects for TV and Film, it is usual to split the project into component parts, reels, chapters, scenes, episodes, ad breaks etc. etc. This is something that is normal to do with any NLE, not just Edius.

                  Hope this helps.

                  Dave.

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                  • #10
                    Thanks guys.....very helpful

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