How to output 1080/50i PAL material to Bluray?

[Karel]

European PAL video cameras record HD material with 25 frames per second in 25p or 50i. The Bluray standard supports 24p, 50i and 60i. So it would seem logical to output your 50i material in the same 50i format to bluray.

And now comes the big BUT:
As I discovered recently, a number of bluray players refuse to output 50i video in HD over their analog component outlets. Instead they downscale HD 1080/50i video to 576p...! They don't do this with 24p or 60i material though, this they output in its native HD format.

Many people are still using analog component connections though, because HDMI connections are not possible for them out of various reasons.

So if I want them to be able to see my video on bluray in HD, I can't export from Edius in 50i. But changing the format to 60i or 24p causes quality issues, especially with movements on video.

How do you overcome this problem...? Any ideas would be greatly welcome.

Greetings
Karel

[antonsvideo]

are you pressing BD disks????

because what you typed only applies to pressed BD (copy protected media)

all non copy protected media such as BD-R or BD-RE will output HD via component

[Karel]

No, I am talking about BD-R and BD-RE disks, I would never have imagined that they have these restrictions too. But I can reproduce the downscaling of my own disks (with my own video on it) on my Panasonic DMP-BD80 bluray player.

And the Manual from Panasonic confirms it:

"The video output resolution is restricted to “576p/480p” when DVD-Video discs, DivX and BD-Video discs recorded at a rate of 50 field per second are output from the COMPONENT VIDEO OUT terminals."

[SoundFreak_HD]

Any new firmware for your player ?

[Karel]

Yes, I installed the latest firmware.

[antonsvideo]

No, I am talking about BD-R and BD-RE disks, I would never have imagined that they have these restrictions too. But I can reproduce the downscaling of my own disks (with my own video on it) on my Panasonic DMP-BD80 bluray player.

And the Manual from Panasonic confirms it:

"The video output resolution is restricted to “576p/480p” when DVD-Video discs, DivX and BD-Video discs recorded at a rate of 50 field per second are output from the COMPONENT VIDEO OUT terminals."

that is incredible, send it back to Panasonic and get a refund

I have LG and Sony BD players here and all output my own productions in 1080 50i via component or HDMI

see manual extract

http://www.videoproductions.com.au/Blu-ray/BD-component-output.jpg

[Karel]

Thank you very much for your feedback Anton...! :-) So I guess I will sue Panasonic now... :-)))

Greetings
Karel

[THoff]

Panasonic does some dumb things sometimes, and it is by design.

Years ago I used to have a Panasonic TV/VHS/DVD combo in my bedroom that was designed not to play any user-recorded disks. It's not that it couldn't, it was designed not to. Recording the same content onto the same DVD+R media and using my DVD burner's booktype support to mark the disk as DVD-ROM instead of DVD+R allowed them to play flawlessly.

The only benefactors of this policy would have been movie studios. If this had been a Sony device I could have understood, but Panasonic isn't in the business of making and distributing movies.

[Bluetongue]

Had the same problem Karel
Sent the unit back got a refund then bought a Sony works just great
LG and now Samsung seem to have come to the party, all my acquaintences have done the same, it takes some companies a long time to wake up
It is all tied up with copyright and all making the big studios fat, Sony were the same but woke up it was effecting sales, or I hope that was why, makes me feel good to believe

Barry