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  • How to output 1080/50i PAL material to Bluray?

    European PAL video cameras record HD material with 25 frames per second in 25p or 50i. The Bluray standard supports 24p, 50i and 60i. So it would seem logical to output your 50i material in the same 50i format to bluray.

    And now comes the big BUT:
    As I discovered recently, a number of bluray players refuse to output 50i video in HD over their analog component outlets. Instead they downscale HD 1080/50i video to 576p...! They don't do this with 24p or 60i material though, this they output in its native HD format.

    Many people are still using analog component connections though, because HDMI connections are not possible for them out of various reasons.

    So if I want them to be able to see my video on bluray in HD, I can't export from Edius in 50i. But changing the format to 60i or 24p causes quality issues, especially with movements on video.

    How do you overcome this problem...? Any ideas would be greatly welcome.

    Greetings
    Karel
    Edius Workgroup 9.20, HD Spark, Windows 10 Professional 64 bit

  • #2
    are you pressing BD disks????

    because what you typed only applies to pressed BD (copy protected media)

    all non copy protected media such as BD-R or BD-RE will output HD via component
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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    • #3
      No, I am talking about BD-R and BD-RE disks, I would never have imagined that they have these restrictions too. But I can reproduce the downscaling of my own disks (with my own video on it) on my Panasonic DMP-BD80 bluray player.

      And the Manual from Panasonic confirms it:

      "The video output resolution is restricted to “576p/480p” when DVD-Video discs, DivX and BD-Video discs recorded at a rate of 50 field per second are output from the COMPONENT VIDEO OUT terminals."
      Edius Workgroup 9.20, HD Spark, Windows 10 Professional 64 bit

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      • #4
        Any new firmware for your player ?
        Tony D.

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        • #5
          Yes, I installed the latest firmware.
          Edius Workgroup 9.20, HD Spark, Windows 10 Professional 64 bit

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Karel View Post
            No, I am talking about BD-R and BD-RE disks, I would never have imagined that they have these restrictions too. But I can reproduce the downscaling of my own disks (with my own video on it) on my Panasonic DMP-BD80 bluray player.

            And the Manual from Panasonic confirms it:

            "The video output resolution is restricted to “576p/480p” when DVD-Video discs, DivX and BD-Video discs recorded at a rate of 50 field per second are output from the COMPONENT VIDEO OUT terminals."
            that is incredible, send it back to Panasonic and get a refund

            I have LG and Sony BD players here and all output my own productions in 1080 50i via component or HDMI

            see manual extract
            http://www.videoproductions.com.au/B...ent-output.jpg
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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            • #7
              Thank you very much for your feedback Anton...! :-) So I guess I will sue Panasonic now... :-)))

              Greetings
              Karel
              Edius Workgroup 9.20, HD Spark, Windows 10 Professional 64 bit

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              • #8
                Panasonic does some dumb things sometimes, and it is by design.

                Years ago I used to have a Panasonic TV/VHS/DVD combo in my bedroom that was designed not to play any user-recorded disks. It's not that it couldn't, it was designed not to. Recording the same content onto the same DVD+R media and using my DVD burner's booktype support to mark the disk as DVD-ROM instead of DVD+R allowed them to play flawlessly.

                The only benefactors of this policy would have been movie studios. If this had been a Sony device I could have understood, but Panasonic isn't in the business of making and distributing movies.

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                • #9
                  Had the same problem Karel
                  Sent the unit back got a refund then bought a Sony works just great
                  LG and now Samsung seem to have come to the party, all my acquaintences have done the same, it takes some companies a long time to wake up
                  It is all tied up with copyright and all making the big studios fat, Sony were the same but woke up it was effecting sales, or I hope that was why, makes me feel good to believe

                  Barry
                  Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
                  GB GA-X58A-UD3R MB, i7 [email protected], 12G 1600mhz Mem, Samsung EVO-250G SSD, 3x2T RAID, GTX 970W OC, 2x24 inch LG Monitors
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