DVD capture

[antonsvideo]

yes, always perfect results with TMPGEnc no matter how bad or non DVD compliant the content

I think the EDIUS source browser requires that the disk content is made to perfection

the EDIUS source browser does a correct job with all DVDs that I created with DVD Lab Pro

DVD Recorders are mainly designed to record and play back in the same machine

they usually do things in strange ways
1. no AUDIO_TS folder
2. open GOP
3. 704 width instead of 720
4. incorrect I, P and B count per GOP (Pal is max 15 and NTSC is max 18)

[andris]

I just had a similar experience to what Paul had when he originally posted this thread.
The "troubled" DVD originated from a DVD Recorder back in 2006 and would play correctly in a DVD player unit & the software player on my PC.
The Edius 6.03 rip to the Bin appeared to work. It showed the correct value for clip length (1 hour), correct aspect ratio (704:480) and put it onto the timeline OK - but there was only about 10 seconds of valid picture/audio and the rest was just silent green screen. This was part of a 5 DVD set and they all did much the same thing (few seconds longer/shorter before green screen).

Ripping using DVD Shrink ended up with exactly same result when the VOBs were put onto the Edius timeline.

Using TMPGEnc I ripped the DVDs and then re-encoded them. All the re-encoded VOBs from TMPGEnc work perfectly.

[andris]

It was created within Edius about 4 years ago (whatever version was current then), But I have never had problems using Edius to rip non-copyrighted DVDs - that don't have some underlying problem.
My guess, is the problem is likely within the DVD disc itself and Edius is not very tolerant of marginal discs. In my experience if Edius won't rip a DVD correctly another software based ripper just might.
However I have found that on occasion no software ripper works and only a real DVD player unit will play a 'faulty' disc correctly. And the capability to tolerate corruptions varies greatly between models. I have a Pioneer unit that I bought nearly a decade ago for $600 at the time that seems to tolerate most corruptions, whereas the other units I have just won't play the same suspect discs correctly.
Also, I have two DVD drives from different manufacturers on my PC and often find one will rip a suspect disc successfully whilst the other drive won't. I have even had the experience where repeated tries on the same drive can yield success in the end.

[paulbasile]

Andris, was your DVD created using Encore or was it a straight burn-to-disc in Edius?

[paulbasile]

John, yes the clip stayed broken until it finished. But when the crunching was done, no file was created.

[paulbasile]

Anton, I will try the firmware upgrade and let you know. You are a wealth of info!

[antonsvideo]

I think from memory when i did it the broken clip remains untill the process has finished, it is working in the background

yes, the process can take 10min depending on how full the disk and how fast the drive

[andris]

I have ripped DVD+RW discs with Edius 6.03. (did it today) and it works fine.

[John Lewis]

I think from memory when i did it the broken clip remains untill the process has finished, it is working in the background

[antonsvideo]

I don't have a screenshot. But it's a very simple procedure. Click on the DVD drive. It performs a quick read and shows the clip with the correct movie length. Then you either click on the capture-and-add-to-bin icon (or right clip on the clip and select the same). Then the drive fires up and starts reading the disc (as it did in version 5). But on version 6 as soon as the disc starts being read, in the bin window, a clip file appears with a broken image on the clip face (I guess indicating that it's not a complete and final clip yet). But like I said, the computer will either freeze up or after reading the disc a while, the broken link will disappear but the clip contains nothing.

can you check for newer firmware of your burner, update and restart PC

http://www.firmwarehq.com/

if that fails, then E6 is not compatible with your drive

[paulbasile]

Johnny, I probably wouldn't mind spending $100 for T5 IF I didn't just spend money on an upgrade that is SUPPOSED to work as advertised.

[paulbasile]

I don't have a screenshot. But it's a very simple procedure. Click on the DVD drive. It performs a quick read and shows the clip with the correct movie length. Then you either click on the capture-and-add-to-bin icon (or right clip on the clip and select the same). Then the drive fires up and starts reading the disc (as it did in version 5). But on version 6 as soon as the disc starts being read, in the bin window, a clip file appears with a broken image on the clip face (I guess indicating that it's not a complete and final clip yet). But like I said, the computer will either freeze up or after reading the disc a while, the broken link will disappear but the clip contains nothing.

[JohnnyD]

Do as Anton says: Use T5. It's cheap and the one of the best for ripping DVDs and encoding. Will save you a lot of time and grief. Since I've been using it, I have more time to watch football and drink beer.

JohnnyD

[antonsvideo]

can you describe the steps you take in the source browser to get files to the bin

also, do you have a screenshot of what files you see in the source browser when viewing the DVD

[paulbasile]

Tried again today with two different DVD's. Both created using the same method. Both didn't work. The drive was reading for a while and some data crunching was taking place, but in the end, I got nothing but a hung-up computer. This sucks. Disc capture always worked for me in version 5. Now I spend money to upgrade and LOSE this ability?!