DVD capture

[andris]

I have ripped DVD+RW discs with Edius 6.03. (did it today) and it works fine.

[antonsvideo]

I think from memory when i did it the broken clip remains untill the process has finished, it is working in the background

yes, the process can take 10min depending on how full the disk and how fast the drive

[paulbasile]

Anton, I will try the firmware upgrade and let you know. You are a wealth of info!

[paulbasile]

John, yes the clip stayed broken until it finished. But when the crunching was done, no file was created.

[paulbasile]

Andris, was your DVD created using Encore or was it a straight burn-to-disc in Edius?

[andris]

It was created within Edius about 4 years ago (whatever version was current then), But I have never had problems using Edius to rip non-copyrighted DVDs - that don't have some underlying problem.
My guess, is the problem is likely within the DVD disc itself and Edius is not very tolerant of marginal discs. In my experience if Edius won't rip a DVD correctly another software based ripper just might.
However I have found that on occasion no software ripper works and only a real DVD player unit will play a 'faulty' disc correctly. And the capability to tolerate corruptions varies greatly between models. I have a Pioneer unit that I bought nearly a decade ago for $600 at the time that seems to tolerate most corruptions, whereas the other units I have just won't play the same suspect discs correctly.
Also, I have two DVD drives from different manufacturers on my PC and often find one will rip a suspect disc successfully whilst the other drive won't. I have even had the experience where repeated tries on the same drive can yield success in the end.

[andris]

I just had a similar experience to what Paul had when he originally posted this thread.
The "troubled" DVD originated from a DVD Recorder back in 2006 and would play correctly in a DVD player unit & the software player on my PC.
The Edius 6.03 rip to the Bin appeared to work. It showed the correct value for clip length (1 hour), correct aspect ratio (704:480) and put it onto the timeline OK - but there was only about 10 seconds of valid picture/audio and the rest was just silent green screen. This was part of a 5 DVD set and they all did much the same thing (few seconds longer/shorter before green screen).

Ripping using DVD Shrink ended up with exactly same result when the VOBs were put onto the Edius timeline.

Using TMPGEnc I ripped the DVDs and then re-encoded them. All the re-encoded VOBs from TMPGEnc work perfectly.

[antonsvideo]

yes, always perfect results with TMPGEnc no matter how bad or non DVD compliant the content

I think the EDIUS source browser requires that the disk content is made to perfection

the EDIUS source browser does a correct job with all DVDs that I created with DVD Lab Pro

DVD Recorders are mainly designed to record and play back in the same machine

they usually do things in strange ways
1. no AUDIO_TS folder
2. open GOP
3. 704 width instead of 720
4. incorrect I, P and B count per GOP (Pal is max 15 and NTSC is max 18)