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    Hi all,
    I am using the old imaginate 2.0 to make a slide show and i then add it to my time line edius 5.51 to create a dvd,
    My issue is my photos are of high quality sharp images from a pro camera and lens.
    After i render the file at 720p at canopus lossless its around 45gb!
    i render the timeline and the project settings are at 1440x1080 50i
    i am making a sd dvd not bluray
    i find the images are too soft and not as sharp as the original jpg
    is there another way ?or have i got my settings all wrong?
    any help please!!

  • #2
    here is your problem

    1. don't render

    2. open the IVT file direct in EDIUS5 and Bob will be your uncle (if you know what I mean) (Neil Diamond)
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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    • #3
      Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
      here is your problem

      1. don't render

      2. open the IVT file direct in EDIUS5 and Bob will be your uncle (if you know what I mean) (Neil Diamond)
      Hi anton,
      Ok ill do that ,but is it imaginate that softens the images as a .avi file or does that not have any impact on the result?

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      • #4
        there is no softening when opening the IVT because you are technically loading the full res still into EDIUS as part of the IVT
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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        • #5
          Originally posted by speco View Post
          Hi all,
          I am using the old imaginate 2.0 to make a slide show and i then add it to my time line edius 5.51 to create a dvd,
          My issue is my photos are of high quality sharp images from a pro camera and lens.
          After i render the file at 720p at canopus lossless its around 45gb!
          i render the timeline and the project settings are at 1440x1080 50i
          i am making a sd dvd not bluray
          i find the images are too soft and not as sharp as the original jpg
          is there another way ?or have i got my settings all wrong?
          any help please!!
          Just wondering where the 720p comes from when it seems your timeline is 1440x1080i

          Best
          Dave.
          Main Editor - Edius 8.53 AdobeCC Mini Monitor 4K Intel X99P SLI Intel Core i7 6800K CPU Gigabyte GTX980 SanDisk Ultra Video SSD 1XINTEL System SSD 16GB Kingston DDR4 2400 RAM VisTitle 2.8 Onboard Sound 10GBE LAN WIN10Pro 64bit

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          • #6
            yes, if exporting as movie, you must choose the direct show option and set to 1440x1080 or 1920x1080

            but using IVT direct is 900 times faster, no need for render at all
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NakedEye View Post
              Just wondering where the 720p comes from when it seems your timeline is 1440x1080i

              Best
              Dave.
              I think he is confused with the 720P setting which is 1280x720 and SD DVD which is 720x576, that lower spec HD gives a lot of newbies a hard time from what I see

              But as anton has said "Do Not Render" Edius takes it all in its stride and when you export to DVD it will all work out fine

              REMEMBER!!! the SD DVD is going to look nothing like your original HD so far as sharpness is concerned

              Regards Barry
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              • #8
                Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                yes, if exporting as movie, you must choose the direct show option and set to 1440x1080 or 1920x1080

                but using IVT direct is 900 times faster, no need for render at all
                ok thanks guys
                new question how do i choose direct show options? do i just add to time line?
                when i finish my imaginate project do i save it as a .avi then add to time line, i cant find the ivt file or save it as a ivt file
                i only can save as a ivp file ...

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                • #9
                  in Imaginate, click file menu, save as, type a name and find a place to put it, this will be the IVT that you load to the EDIUS bin and then place on timeline

                  this process takes 2 seconds or so

                  whereas exporting to direct show HD can take 1000 times longer depending on size

                  do you still want to know how to select direct show?
                  Anton Strauss
                  Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                  EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                  • #10
                    ok thanks Anton
                    when iu save project it only gives me the ivp setting i tried to use that on time line but it only gave me the first photo?
                    yes how do i get direct show?
                    Cant sem to save it as a ivt file to add to time line ,i am rendering atm as a direct show but i dont think that will answer my question.....
                    Last edited by speco; 09-01-2011, 12:08 PM.

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                    • #11
                      OK i discovered that the file .ivp, in my bin was always the complete slideshow but i had to drag the file alond the time line to expand it to its complete duration,how bizzare??
                      the complete slide show is on the time line and now doing a burn ,interested to see what it looks like on a dvd?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by speco View Post
                        OK i discovered that the file .ivp, in my bin was always the complete slideshow but i had to drag the file alond the time line to expand it to its complete duration,how bizzare??
                        the complete slide show is on the time line and now doing a burn ,interested to see what it looks like on a dvd?
                        when adding IVT to timeline, it will take the default duration that you have preset for still images

                        my still images are preset to 4 sec


                        after that, I can stretch it to any length to fit any gap, a great software
                        Anton Strauss
                        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                          when adding IVT to timeline, it will take the default duration that you have preset for still images

                          my still images are preset to 4 sec


                          after that, I can stretch it to any length to fit any gap, a great software
                          Thanks heaps Anton you certainly have made my life a lot easier when it comes to this stuff!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                            when adding IVT to timeline, it will take the default duration that you have preset for still images

                            my still images are preset to 4 sec


                            after that, I can stretch it to any length to fit any gap, a great software
                            One more question, if the project is only 600mb and the dvd is 4.7gb why cant i use more space or make the same slideshow photos more cleare like the original photos ? if i have space left over on the dvd?
                            Should i make the jpgs the same resolution as the project settings or less

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                            • #15
                              a DVD is limited to 720px wide, this is why they look lower quality

                              however, your source images should always be larger than the project setting, otherwise you can't zoom, all my stills are 4320x3240 from GH1 camera

                              and if your destination is DVD only, you may consider doing this in an SD project setting, this way there is no more downscaling when exporting to DVD
                              Anton Strauss
                              Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                              EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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