Unwanted Black borders on DV footage

[zvit]

My projects settings are standard DV settings and my problem is that with DV footage, there is a black border on both sides of the footage. This is not a one time thing... it's been forever but I never had the time to ask and people never complained but it bothers me. The only way to rid of it is to scale the footage %103 which I don't like doing.

Attached is images showing the project settings and also I show a "Blind Push" Transition were you can see when my footage is NOT scaled, this transition makes a black gap in between the clips while it's sliding. You can also see that when I scale the footage to %103, the slide transition is seamless.

What is wrong?

[GrassValley_PS]

Change your overscan to 0 in your settings. Then make sure that you have not accidentally saved a less than 100% setting in Layouter as your default.

[zvit]

Change your overscan to 0 in your settings.

1. My "enable overscan" is UNchceked. If it were, where is this overscan setting?

Then make sure that you have not accidentally saved a less than 100% setting in Layouter as your default.

My layout is %100. I never changed it.

[GrassValley_PS]

Look in your screenshot. It is part of the project preset.

[Ron Evans]

Your screen shots show overscan to be 3 %. Change that to 0.

Ron Evans

[zvit]

Thanks.

I changed it. Same problem. I also re-imported footage. Same black sides.

p.s. just out of curiosity, should a setting of -%3 (negative) make this problem and not %3?

[Red Union Films]

This does not look like an overscan issue. It looks like a PAR issue, check the PAR of your source material against the PAR of your project.

[Andreas_Gumm]

It seems to me that footage is recorded with 704x576 resolution & it has been captured to 720x576 resolution.
Change the project resolution to 704x576 & crop the footage to match the project dimension!

[zvit]

par says 1.067 and Edius says on footage 1.0667 - is that the same? 4/3/(720/576) = 1.067

[Andreas_Gumm]

Your par is correct! The black bars has been rendered in your footage because you captured footage with 704 pixel width to a target with 720 pixel width!
720 - 704 = 16 pixel overhead, 16 pixel / 2 = 8 pixel width for right & left black bar! ;)

Change your project resolution to 704 width & crop 8 pixel on right & left side of your footage.

[Red Union Films]

Is the file a raw camera file, if so which one? Although the info would suggest other wise, as it says Canopus codec.

If it is pre-edited rendered file, depending on the original material and original project settings, you will have to be careful not to mess with SAR (not PAR) any further.

Andreas's suggestion is almost correct, it's not really a crop but an unconstrained re-size. You will be blowing into the width in order to match the 704 active screen area in the rendered 720 back into a new 704 setup. This all assumes that your file is a render with black bars, maybe check in media player to see. Either way, you should never use 704 as it is a load crap setting for computer use, that usually screws things up in normal PAL land, as you have found out.

[Andreas_Gumm]

From my view it's better to use 704 width than resizing the real image resolution to 720 pixel.
If the result is for DVD it's valid in terms of the spec.

[THoff]

Cropping without resizing is the way to go, even digital TVs still use overscan so the black border is usually not visible. Even when no overscan is used (during playback on a computer for instance) the black border is really not objectionable.

[antonsvideo]

True DV should not have a black border, unless the DV was created via an ADVC device from an analogue tape source

or captured from DVD type cameras that record 704 instead of 720

[zvit]

I don't want to have to change my project to 704 because my projects need to be PAL which is 720X576. I need to figure out why the footage is not coming in PAL.

I looked at the Panasonic AG-DVC200 manual and it says:

Horizontal Resolution: 800 lines (center)
Vertical Resolution: 450 lines/500 lines (Super-V)

Can THIS be the problem? Does this camera NOT shoot PAL DV?? (PAL=576, NTSC=480) The 800 are enough for 720 but the 500... there aren't enough lines for 576?

Or am I mistaken somehow?