Blu ray problem

[Mick Mearman]

I've got a problem with the Blu ray I've encoded, when I burned direct from Edius I had an error code 83450408 so I had to abort but the disc content was complete? the problem is the audio peaks on loudish sections,(Power DVD) I've played the stream and it doesn't peak, I've played other Blu rays that I've done and they're ok but I used IMGburn for those, when I try imgburn by dragging in BDMV and CERTIFICATE I get a strange file arrangement ie BDMV\BDMV and BDMV\CERTIFICATE but assumed that was ok? checked all the other settings When I burn and verify the disc it won't play (tried 2) and a message ' format disc windows cannot play this format' what is wrong here? can anyone help? and is there a virtual player I can use to play Blu ray? Power DVD 9 will play blu ray discs but not from the hard drive as it does video-TS
Mick

[antonsvideo]

there is a correct way to use ImgBurn, you only select the folders needed and not the top folder containing the same subfolders
EDIUS creates a top folder also called BDMV, you don't want that

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=9512

[Mick Mearman]

Thanks Anton, In the end I created a new folder called img and dragged the BDMV and CERTIFICATE into it because whatever I did I got double trails and that worked ok but I still have distortion on the loud bits which I don't understand because I made sure in the edit that it didn't go over and there's no problem with DVD,s done from the same timeline.
Mick

[antonsvideo]

when you open the EDIUS VU meter, the highest you should see is -6db and then it will be perfect for DVD or Blu-ray

what do you see in your VU

[Mick Mearman]

The peaks are -3db, I've turned the master on in the mixer and reduced it by -3db will that take care of it?
Mick

[Claire]

is there a virtual player I can use to play Blu ray? Power DVD 9 will play blu ray discs but not from the hard drive as it does video-TS
Mick

Hi Mick, I have TotalMedia Theatre 3 (now version 4 I think) and find it very good indeed for testing everything I'm about to burn to Blue-ray.

I use the burn to folders option rather than to a disk, no such issues playing from hard drive as long as it's your own work and not commercially protected then when happy everything is ok, make the actual disk from the folders with ImgBurn, which I trust completely not to mess up.

[antonsvideo]

yes, I also use Total Media 3 Ultimate and it plays BDMV folders perfect, I always test the menus prior to burning

[antonsvideo]

The peaks are -3db, I've turned the master on in the mixer and reduced it by -3db will that take care of it?
Mick

it should

note that Hollywood type Blu-ray and DVD have even lower volume of around -20db

but I stick with -6db peak

[Mick Mearman]

Thanks, is there a normalise setting for this?
I think I will go for the Total Media solution, Blu ray coasters are a bit expensive
Mick

[antonsvideo]

I usually export the whole timeline to wav (takes seconds)

then open in Soundforge and normalize to -16 using RMS and not peak normalize

then I apply the wavehammer and set to -6db, save as new name and place back on EDIUS timeline and turn off existing audio

EDIUS also has a normalize tool but a peak one, this is not so useful but you can still get good results but you must do one clip at a time and exclude real loud sections from the normalize by cut and cut, then do a separate normalize on that extra loud section to bring it inline with the rest

the beauty of E6 is that you can leave the VU meter open while testing many levels of normalize, apply normalize and leave default of -12db and this should show a level of -6db on VU meter, if not, click it again and change level to say 10 or 14 depending on which way is wrong and test again, this will also make the waveforms shrink or grow, so at the end, if all waveforms look visually the same height, you done well

[Ron Evans]

Blu ray coasters are a bit expensive
Mick

I have a few BD-RW discs around just for checking and seeing what things actually look like on a real TV from a player. I author with DVD Architect which has a pretty good preview so its really what it looks like on a TV for me that matters.

Do my sound much like Anton, mix in Vegas, fine tune in Sound Forge then take back into Edius so its part of the file for TMPGenc to downconvert.

Ron Evans

[shueardm]

I have a few BD-RW discs around just for checking and seeing what things actually look like on a real TV from a player.

I just create an ISO image and watch it over the network with Total Media Theatre and Virtual CloneDrive.

[Ron Evans]

The preview is good in DVD Architect so I do not need to verify menus navigation etc as I can see the whole disc on my PC. Having a disc means other people can also pass their opinion too.

Ron Evans

[Mick Mearman]

I just create an ISO image and watch it over the network with Total Media Theatre and Virtual CloneDrive.

I've downloaded the trial version of Total Media 5 but it will not run, just stays with the launch window, I'm in conversation with Arcsoft at the moment but I think there's something wrong with the trial download because the first thing I expect to see on a trial is a notice to say how long I have to use it.
Mick