Scrubbing volume quieter than playback volume?

[RayL]

When scrubbing, the volume is quieter than when playing the timeline. Is there a tweak for this so that the scrub volume can be made equal to playback?

RayL

[RayL]

It is unusual to get no replies. Am I to assume, then, that scrub volume cannot be brought up to playback volume? It's a nuisance, just another little Edius quirk.

Perhaps it could be fixed at the next update?

Ray

[John Hooper]

I guess that this function is designed that way so that the increased audio "energy" in the high frequencies when scrubbing doesn't blow the tweeters in your speakers.

[RayL]

I would hope not. That would be the sort of arrogant 'We know what you want so we won't give you the option' attitude that we've come to expect from Microsoft. I'm sure GV wouldn't be that arrogant, would they?

Ray

[Red Union Films]

After spending many years in audio production, and blowing many tweeters. I have to say that John is 100% correct. Blowing cheap PC speakers is one thing, wrecking a monitoring system that may cost many thousands is another. It's not an arrogantly enforced opinion, could you imagine the bother GV would get into if they did not have such a safety measure in place. Besides, the potential damage to your ears is easily worth the minor inconvenience of a ducking/attenuation system.

Cheers.

Dave.

[GrassValley_PS]

It has nothing to do with arrogance. I am totally scratching my head to try and figure out how John's suggestion about a physical limitation (which makes perfect sense), translates into somebody telling you what you "want".There is no Vol control for scrubbing and I honestly don't expect one until we have a major overhaul of the audio

[Andreas_Gumm]

I think it has been designed perfectly for most needs when scrubbing!

I didn't hear any similar request before or that someone feels bothered by the actual way!
Not shure about it but I think most other applications working in a similar way & let you scrub more or less quieter.
But none of them has a seperate volume control just for scrubbing.

[Paranova Films]

i agree, i also have spend many years working audio with a lot of programs and i can not remember an app that work different

[RayL]

Your replies imply that editors are going to be all the time scrubbing at high speed backwards and forwards along the timeline. Well, perhaps that sort of editor has to learn the hard way about blowing up tweeters. Scrubbing to find an edit point is a careful process. Matching the volume between scrubbing and playback makes for faster, more efficient, editing because it does not involve constant changes of the computer's volume control

The finest of the Standard Definition editing programmes (Premiere 6.5) had no such 'nanny knows best' feature, and I'm not aware of huge numbers of complaints about blown tweeters. Would you not concede that Edius should at least have the option of selecting matched or unmatched levels for scrubbing?

Ray

[John Hooper]

Your replies imply that editors are going to be all the time scrubbing at high speed backwards and forwards along the timeline. Well, perhaps that sort of editor has to learn the hard way about blowing up tweeters. Scrubbing to find an edit point is a careful process. Matching the volume between scrubbing and playback makes for faster, more efficient, editing because it does not involve constant changes of the computer's volume control

The finest of the Standard Definition editing programmes (Premiere 6.5) had no such 'nanny knows best' feature, and I'm not aware of huge numbers of complaints about blown tweeters. Would you not concede that Edius should at least have the option of selecting matched or unmatched levels for scrubbing?

Ray

It all depends how you are scrubbing the timeline.

If you drag the cursor along the timeline, the audio level is lower for the very reason I said in my previous post. Edius does not "know" how fast you might use this function and therefore spares you the cost of blown tweeters.

If, however, you scrub using the forward arrow (or backwards arrow) on the keyboard then the audio level is higher. I assume this because you are limited in the speed and would not damage anything.

I have a Contour Design Shuttle Pro and this also enables you to scrub more precisely and doesn't appear to reduce the audio level very much.

Are you scrubbing using the mouse and cursor?

[RayL]

"Edius does not "know" how fast you might use this function and therefore spares you the cost of blown tweeters."

Well, that's jolly nice of Edius to be so concerned about my extemal hardware, but can't you see just how patronising it is?

Alternatively, it is possible that this 'blowing tweeters' argument is just a red herring and there is some other reason for this volume mismatch, including a mistake in the programming of the software. After all, if tweeters was the reason, it would be mentioned in the manual, wouldn't it?

Ray
(who scrubs with the mouse)

[Red Union Films]

"Your replies imply that editors are going to be all the time scrubbing at high speed backwards and forwards along the timeline. Well, perhaps that sort of editor has to learn the hard way about blowing up tweeters. Scrubbing to find an edit point is a careful process. Matching the volume between scrubbing and playback makes for faster, more efficient, editing because it does not involve constant changes of the computer's volume control" Talk about arrogance... It seems like you are referring to most editors and suggesting they restrict their choice and flexibility in an edit.

Looks like you are the only one bothered about it, maybe it's you that should learn something. You even re-questioned the forum because of the lack of response to the question in the first place, now there's a big hint. Then John and others at least give you the time of day, with great replies. Why do people post questions on open forums, to only ignore or not take on board any opinion just because they don't like the answer?

If you are not prepared to be educated by experienced people, why post in the first place.

[Paranova Films]

(who scrubs with the mouse)

Scrubing with mouse is only one of the ways, i also use contour shuttle and the keyboard, try right clickng in the program monitor and scrubing in a "circular" way to the right or to the left and let us know what do you thing

[pjsssss]

Sorry Ray, but I agree with Dave on this. You are coming across as bit of a conspiracy theorist when there is no conspiracy. You seem to be the only one concerned about it.

As my Dad used to say, "if you are in a room of experienced people and you are the only one that has a different opinion, there is a good chance that the person that is wrong is you".

[Alade]

I think you guys have wasted too much time on this topic....I prefer this method than having to lower the volume every time I go to scrub....don't see why iy should cuase so much debate.....its a great feature, end of story.....