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  • Problem with HDV Capture

    I am having trouble capturing HDV using Edius 4.51c. Camcorder: Sony HVRZ1U.

    Capture Procedure:
    1) Start Edius 4.51c
    2) Select New Preset at the New Project list. (The Project Settings dialog appears. Edius displays a message "Multiple output devices are found. Please select your output hardware.)
    3) Ok the message.
    4) Select "Generic OHCI HD 60Hz" for the Output device.
    5) Select "1920x1080 59.94i" for the Output format.
    6) Select the default values at the New Preset dialog.
    7) Select the Start button.
    8) Define a project folder and a project name in the Project Name Setting dialog.
    9) Select the Capture menu.
    10) Choose "Generic HDV - Input"
    11) From the Input Settings dialog, choose "Generic HDV Input" from the Input Device list.
    12) Choose "Canopus HQ 1920x1080/59.94i" from the Input Format list.
    13) Define an In and Out point in the PLR window.
    14) Click the "Add to batch capture" button
    15) Open the Batch Capture dialog.
    16) Define a folder and filename in the filename column
    17) Select the Capture button.

    Edius does not capture the video and the Staus progress bar does not display. This procedure worked in Edius 4.1.
    Camera: Sony HVRZ1U
    Software: Edius 5.11, ProCoder 3.05.91, Imaginate 2, DVDit Pro HD
    System: Supermicro X7DA8, 2 Dual-Core Xeon (5060) 3.2GHz, 4GB RAM, (ST3750640AS) 750GB x 2 SATA
    7200RPM RAID 0, PNY NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT (512MB), Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP, WinXP(SP2), Edius NX w/ Bay and Expansion Kit

  • #2
    Edius does not capture the video and the Staus progress bar does not display. This procedure worked in Edius 4.1.[/QUOTE]

    Are you sure you captured in 4.1 to a 1920x1080 file size?
    If you were, I would like to know the procedure.
    HDV captures by firewire
    to a 1440x1080 1.3 file size.
    I capture by way of a Intensity Pro card to a 1920x1080 square pixel uncompressed or MJPEG file format and use them in Edius.

    Change your capture setting to 1440x1080 and it should work.
    Jerry
    Six Gill DV
    www.sgdvtutorials.com
    If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

    Vistitle YouTube Channel
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

    Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
    http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


    Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
    Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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    • #3
      Strange I also think that 1920x1080 was not available in 4.1.

      As Jerry said HDV is 1440 not 1920.
      Steve
      EDIUS Trainer, Grass Cutter Gold
      A proud EDIUS EDITOR
      For more information on the Grass Cutter program please visit: http://www.grass-cutters.net

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      • #4
        Problem with HDV Capture

        >Are you sure you captured in 4.1 to a 1920x1080 file size?<
        Yes.

        >Change your capture setting to 1440x1080 and it should work.<
        It is working, now. I suppose it's possible Edius 4.51c is more sensative to this setting than v4.1.
        Camera: Sony HVRZ1U
        Software: Edius 5.11, ProCoder 3.05.91, Imaginate 2, DVDit Pro HD
        System: Supermicro X7DA8, 2 Dual-Core Xeon (5060) 3.2GHz, 4GB RAM, (ST3750640AS) 750GB x 2 SATA
        7200RPM RAID 0, PNY NVIDIA GeForce 9600GT (512MB), Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP, WinXP(SP2), Edius NX w/ Bay and Expansion Kit

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        • #5
          Edius does not capture the video and the Staus progress bar does not display. This procedure worked in Edius 4.1

          .............


          Are you sure you captured in 4.1 to a 1920x1080 file size?
          If you were, I would like to know the procedure.

          the steps outlined earlier by Bandman are correct for capture of HDV direct to the Canopus HQ codec in full HD (1920x1080)

          the process works fine in 4.24, I haven't tested it yet in 4.51
          Last edited by Andy; 08-21-2007, 02:07 PM.

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          • #6
            But as the Sony HVRZ1U records at 1440x1080i it would make more sense to expect it to work better using the 1440x1080i settings

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            • #7
              Adbear is correct - to my knowledge, it only ever records HDV at 1440x1080, which means your capture profile should always match the data on the tape.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Andy View Post
                the steps outlined earlier by Bandman are correct for capture of HDV direct to the Canopus HQ codec in full HD (1920x1080)

                the process works fine in 4.24, I haven't tested it yet in 4.51
                I just did the test and as far as I can remember, that is the way it has worked since
                we were able to do HD in Edius.


                Please check your actual file under properties to see if it states 1920x1080.
                I realize you are using it under the 1920x1080 preset, but the actual file more than likely will be captured to 1440x1080. If you are capturing that file in full raster 1920x1080, open a 1440x1080 preset and import the file. The file will not change under the preset and under properties it will still say 1920x1080.
                Please report back to confirm this.
                Last edited by Jerry; 08-21-2007, 11:18 PM.
                Jerry
                Six Gill DV
                www.sgdvtutorials.com
                If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                Vistitle YouTube Channel
                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                • #9
                  Edius gives you BOTH options to capture HDV at 1920x1080 or 1440x1080. I will admit that I haven't captured HDV through 4.51 yet. But what's the point to offer you the option of capturing HDV at 1920x1080 if it's not going to work.

                  When capturing DVCPro HD through firewire, it forces you to use its native resolution....but it also forces you to use the DVCPro HD codec and not options to use the HQ codec during firewire capture, so maybe both options for HDV is a mistake?

                  Beyond that, offering the option of capturing to the HQ codec at a full 1920x1080 or the native resolution of the format is something Edius has done for awhile. I have never had a problem with using either capture setting. And when I tell it to capture at 1920x1080 it captures at a a full 1920x1080 w/ a 1.0 PAR. So my question is....is Edius taking the 1920x1080 HD-SDI output from the DVCProHD/HDCam decks and resizing it back to their native resolution? Isn't all this scaling actually hurting the video quality? The decks might record at 1440x1080, 1280x1080, or 960x720, but the video output of the decks are 1920x1080 themselves...unless there's some setting in the decks I dunno about.

                  OK, time to get back on topic. So yeah, if the 1920x1080 option for HDV isn't going to work why offer the setting.

                  Dave
                  Last edited by DaveT; 08-22-2007, 07:15 AM.

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                  • #10
                    OK, I can confirm that using Generic HDV Input --> Canopus HQ 1920x1080/59.94i _does not_ work....but using Generic HDV Input --> Canoput HQ 1440x1080/59.94i does.

                    So, to me, I think that the 1920x1080 option is a mistake. And probably shouldn't be there.

                    Also have the same issue when trying to capture it as MPEG-TS...1920x1080 does not work but 1440x1080 does.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DaveT View Post
                      OK, I can confirm that using Generic HDV Input --> Canopus HQ 1920x1080/59.94i _does not_ work....but using Generic HDV Input --> Canoput HQ 1440x1080/59.94i does.

                      So, to me, I think that the 1920x1080 option is a mistake. And probably shouldn't be there.

                      Also have the same issue when trying to capture it as MPEG-TS...1920x1080 does not work but 1440x1080 does.
                      1920x1080/59.94i is for hd not hdv.
                      I7-6900K, X99 Taichi, Geforce GTX 1070, Corsair RM850X, Corsair H100 IV2, Windows 10, Edius WG 9.30

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                      • #12
                        Specifically, the profiles (both HQ and MPEG TS) are for the ADVCHDM1, which performs HD-SDI-to-FireWire (Full Res MPEG-2 HD) conversion.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Khoi Pham View Post
                          1920x1080/59.94i is for hd not hdv.
                          I know that, but it's under the HDV Input settings....so to me, it's just confusing.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GrassValley_KH View Post
                            Specifically, the profiles (both HQ and MPEG TS) are for the ADVCHDM1, which performs HD-SDI-to-FireWire (Full Res MPEG-2 HD) conversion.
                            Well, now that makes sense. But maybe it should be better defined in the settings? If a person comes in and doesn understand the tech-specs of all this HDV stuff, he might want to do 1920x1080 and think something is broken when it doesn't work.

                            Can't believe that little box is around $6,500! Cheaper to just get a firewire card in our DVCPro HD deck and some of the new HDCam decks offer firewire options to where it'll convert HDCam to HDV. :p

                            I love the idea of it though. Even looked at it, until I saw that price and since we'd need a few couldn't get the OK. :(

                            Dave

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DaveT View Post
                              Well, now that makes sense. But maybe it should be better defined in the settings? If a person comes in and doesn understand the tech-specs of all this HDV stuff, he might want to do 1920x1080 and think something is broken when it doesn't work.
                              Actually, it's in the builtin documentation with the app - pull up the Help, and look up Input and Output. It provides expanded info to what you see in the application, and drops the name "ADVCHDM1" in there too.

                              Originally posted by DaveT View Post
                              Can't believe that little box is around $6,500!
                              It's now available for $5499 (till Sept 30th)

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