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    I have noticed something different in E6 that I don't think anyone has mentioned before. If I double-click on a bin clip and open it in the preview window, then set an in/out point before putting it on the timeline then the clip in the bin window now has the in/out set based on the preview edit I just did. I don't recall this happening before E6.

    I can understand how this will be helpful and a great enhancement for almost all workflows so I am not complaining that it is a bug or a change that is counter-productive. For the most part I like it.

    However, at the end of my wedding edits I like to create an outtakes section. To do so I take each folder in my bin ( I sort my clips in folders) and will drop all the clips on the timeline and scrub through them on the timeline to remove stuff that doesn't need to be in the outtakes. Problem is many of these clips that had in/out markers set only move that selected portion to the timeline. Often the parts I cut out may be funny but not fit the main edit but be great outtakes so I like it all to be there. This means I have to find each clip that is "edited" and expand it back out on the timeline.

    Is there a way to highlight all the clips in a bin and remove all the previously set in/out points. Have I missed a setting somewhere?
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    I think that is a new specification
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    • #3
      Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
      I think that is a new specification
      That was my thinking. I see a big benefit to it working the way it does now but occasionally it would be nice to reset all the in/out points.
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      • #4
        you could double click the bin and reload the clips?
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        • #5
          Philip,


          If you always edit like that you can do the following which is inline with the expanded features.

          you have a master clip.
          You bring it to the player window.
          put you in and put and do the following:

          use add subclip to bin (new feature ...there is a button for the player)

          after you have done that press x.
          This will clear your master but your sub will retain the in and out points.

          The sub will have is own count and is "tracked separate".

          This will make what you want to do easier because you always have the whole master clip without any in out reference but you will have a nice folder with all your "trimmed clips" without any duplication on disk.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by GrassValley_SL View Post
            Philip,


            If you always edit like that you can do the following which is inline with the expanded features.

            you have a master clip.
            You bring it to the player window.
            put you in and put and do the following:

            use add subclip to bin (new feature ...there is a button for the player)

            after you have done that press x.
            This will clear your master but your sub will retain the in and out points.

            The sub will have is own count and is "tracked separate".

            This will make what you want to do easier because you always have the whole master clip without any in out reference but you will have a nice folder with all your "trimmed clips" without any duplication on disk.
            I will have to play with that a little. Problem is I don't edit all my footage this way. Some is done in the preview window and some is done directly on the timeline. That could make for a big mess if I don't do all the trimming and move to a new folder. I will check that out as an alternative.
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            • #7
              Those edited on the timeline don't update the master clip. You would only have to sub those coming form the player window.
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              • #8
                I prefer to work with one big clip. I then cut it up into sections with the preview player window in and out points. The sub clip feature is a very easy way to accomplish this. Before, you would update over a previously marked clip. Now you won't.
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                • #9
                  Precisely. It makes it easier in most workflows.

                  I like this feature very much.
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                  • #10
                    I have to agree.... this was a much needed enhancement to our workflows. It especially makes sense when for example when I have shot an event such as a wedding and my partner will be doing the edit, because I know the footage and the shots I want him to use I can quickly sort and organize/trim/rename the media into relevent subclips/bins. He is then able to quickly pick up the flow and get down to the edit without having to trudge through the rubbish... not that I shoot any that is :-P.

                    Also very usefull for long form projects with truck loads of material that might take up to a couple of years to complete.

                    I like it.. Best
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                    • #11
                      anyone find the subclips dull looking? like almost the same color as the timeline
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                      • #12
                        Another suggestion for workflow - before editing put all the clips on a timeline. They will not have any in and outs set.

                        Then start a new timeline and edit away.

                        When you want to go back to the clips with no in and out either:

                        1) Load the first timeline and trim it, or

                        2) Make an empty bin, Load the first timeline, select all the clips and right click and choose "add to bin" - this will put the clips from the timeline back in the bin with no ins and outs.
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                        • #13
                          Great tip in General.
                          But yes there is a BUT. If you use a split V/A workflow going back to timeline from bin is a is going to give you un-grouped split clips and if you use for example 8 channel audio it will soon turn in to a big mess.
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                          • #14
                            I forgot to mention that - put the clips on VA tracks and obviously keep the sound as stereo instead of two mono tracks as well (assuming you only have two audio tracks) otherwise you will end up in ths same situation as with 8 tracks.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GrassValley_SL View Post
                              Great tip in General.
                              But yes there is a BUT. If you use a split V/A workflow going back to timeline from bin is a is going to give you un-grouped split clips and if you use for example 8 channel audio it will soon turn in to a big mess.
                              This is when the forums are so great. When you pose a question you often get multiple alternatives for how to achieve your solution.

                              This new functionality is a great addition. I just had the one workflow issue that it affected. I tried the sub clips option and while it would work I think I discovered an even easier way for me. I wondered if you could just duplicate a bin. Did a little right clicking on a bin/folder and tried the Export option. That did the trick. It exports "bin details" Now at the beginning of a project when I have all my media in my folder structure I can just "export" my main Video bin details with all the subfolders. Then just import that small file at the end when I want to do outtakes and drop my clips from there.

                              Editing is like computer programming. There are always multiple ways to accomplish a task and someone always seems to know how to do it better.
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