Distort for perspective

[Ricksta]

Sorry if this is Edius 101, but that is about where I am at. I want to distort the image I have on track 2 to give it the same perspective as the screen hanging on the wall in track 1. I can resize and rotate track 2 but I cannot distort (break the corners) it to give it perspective. Any clues?...

[STORMDAVE]

Are you trying it with 3d PinP? You should be able to position it in 3d Space, although it's not 100% accurate, it is useful regardless.

[Ricksta]

Are you trying it with 3d PinP? You should be able to position it in 3d Space, although it's not 100% accurate, it is useful regardless.

Yes I was using 3D PIP but it's just not allowing me to "break" the corners of the overlayed image and distort them to match the screen on the wall in the image underneath.

[STORMDAVE]

Oh, sorry...that's not possible, unfortunately. I think Boris FX will do you good with this one...try to get the demo and see if it works, I think Digital Juice has a sale going on giving away BFX for cheap?

[Andy]

...that's not possible, unfortunately

i feel you pain Ricksta. that was one of the first things I had to do with Edius, and was aghast when I discovered how difficult it was to perform the simplest composite, and how impossible it was to do a basic corner pin distortion. nightmare introduction that soured my opinion of Edius for a good long while, which is a shame because its one of the few things you can't do and I just happened accross it right at the start.

simple compositing just got a whole lot easier with v4.5's Select Channel filter (cheers!) but corner pin and distortion generally is still a pain in the proverbial. best bet is just to take the job to a different system or software that can better handle that and don't waste time trying to do it with an NLE thats not designed for it. it'll only aggravate you and distract you from all the stuff about Edius that is really pretty darn good.

[GrassValley_BH]

... don't waste time trying to do it with an NLE thats not designed for it. it'll only aggravate you and distract you from all the stuff about Edius that is really pretty darn good.

This is the best advice I've heard in a long time. Really shows the wisdom of experience.

[Khoi Pham]

Yes I was using 3D PIP but it's just not allowing me to "break" the corners of the overlayed image and distort them to match the screen on the wall in the image underneath.

The way I do this is make a single frame of that wall and open it in photoshop and fill that frame with black and everything ouside white, then save it as a bmp, back in Edius, put your clip with the wall on 1V and the video that you want to be inside the frame on 2V, then drag an alpha filter to that clip and load in the bmp that you made in photoshop, adjust transparancy and keyframe it so that it won't fade, then get out of that and go to layout tool and shrink it so the picture will fit inside that frame.
Depend on how much offset the corners are, it might crop a little on the edge, I do this all the time and it does not take long at all and all realtime. This is more realistic than if you could use 3DPIP to distorted and image, because if you look at the wall with your eyes, the picture does not distorted.